01-04-2016, 05:48 PM | #16 |
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Synthetic oil really does make a difference in shift quality. Safer starts in cold weather too.
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01-04-2016, 07:54 PM | #17 | |
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Do you shift into neutral when you coast to a stop light? I taught motorcycle rider safety for the state of Idaho for a year. We taught everyone to stay in gear at stop lights, so you can get out of the way when someone tries to bump you into the intersection, et cetera.
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01-04-2016, 10:46 PM | #19 |
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Not just the engine running, but the bike stopped. That is why some bikes will hit the neutral detent if you rock the bike fwd or reverse a bit.
As far as sitting stopped at a light in neutral or sitting there holding the clutch in, I'll do whatever the situation dictates thank you |
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01-05-2016, 01:12 AM | #20 | |
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01-05-2016, 06:04 AM | #21 |
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I can see the point about being safer with the bike in gear at a stoplight.
Situation does dictate.I would try and not sit at a long light with the clutch pulled in as I believe it wears on the clutch plates compared to sitting in neutral. Also there is the outside chance of killing the motor if the clutch lever slipped.That would not happen if you were in neutral. |
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01-05-2016, 11:24 AM | #23 | |
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01-05-2016, 11:41 AM | #24 |
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Neutrals were always an issue in many bikes...unless it was a Hodaka. They came with multiple neutrals that could be found most anywhere in a gear box! ;-)
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01-05-2016, 11:43 AM | #25 |
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Me neither, and clutches are cheap. Besides, I'd rather sacrifice my clutch than myself. I always keep the bike in gear while at a red light, and I keep one eye on my mirror.
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01-05-2016, 01:03 PM | #26 |
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I'm a neutral phobyte I guess.
Every since back in the day when I observed a lad who had just bought one of those shiny new orange Suzuki 400 Cyclone Moto crossers (testicular mashers). It must of been his first rodeo because for minutes on end he kept it in gear on the starting line while they waited for the watering truck to get done watering the track. Nobody was going to get the jump on him. When the starter finally came and gave the 30 second warning for everyone to get ready, said Suzuki squirted down the track with the rider hanging on like in a Charley Chaplin movie, half on , half off and taking some mighty big steps in between. Apparently keeping it in gear for so long with that much legendary power made the clutch plates swell enough that he had no clutch left as it had become one with the universe. Even though he tried his darness to squeeze handlebar and clutch lever into one solid piece. So now I even put my car automatic transmission in neutral at long stop lights. Weird huh???? rj
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01-05-2016, 01:16 PM | #27 |
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Over the years, I've just gotten into the habit of slightly rocking the bike to pop into neutral from 1st... works like a charm. Although my Kinroad has neutral all the way at the top, so I can't miss it!
As for neutral at lights? I'm guilty. On known LONG wait lights... after the cars around me have settled... in particular, the guy behind me has stopped... I'll shift into neutral to give my hand a break and use the pause in riding to stretch or roll my shoulders and stay loose. Ride safe! Cheers!
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01-05-2016, 01:28 PM | #28 |
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which only allows it to go from 1st to neutral and back to 1st while not moving. I'm so used to kawasakis.
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Only on long lights for me. If you don't think the plates drag then push your bike in neutral and then push It in gear with the clutch pulled in. |
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01-05-2016, 01:52 PM | #30 | |
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