China Bikes

Sean · 05-09-2011, 02:03 AM

Alright, Hello everyone, Im Sean and im new to the forums.
Let me start off with i am 16, In the summer i got hunting and elk durring the year. But you just cant get very far anymore walking, and taking the truck is to expensive. So my Uncle and I have been looking at 4 Stroke dual sports for a while. For some reason BRAND NAME dualsports are super expensive even older models i assume it is because of the econemy and gas prices. So im looking at something more affordable, but i want something newer.

How long do these bikes last?
Can i exchange the motor with a brand name one?
do they got good power for hills
What size bike should i get? im 5"4 and 120lbs
What bike should i get?
Should i even get a china bike?

A few things im looking for Are:
Electric start
Exchangable parts "Basically something i can modify, if you know what i mean"
Something reliable not brake everytime i take it for a ride.
Can i put leds in these?

I know its a china bike and you get what you pay for but this is hunting im talking about, im not going to abuse the crap out of it or anything i just dont want to get stuck up in the middle of know where, and some of you may say to just save up and buy a brand name bike, but i cant afford it. Its impossible to get a job in this econemy and the prices are to high and i cant get electric start and all that fancy stuff on an older bike.but with a china bike for the price i can.

Is it worth it? Honestly?

I know im asking a lot. But i dont want to make a mistake on buying one of these.

Weldangrind · 05-09-2011, 02:21 AM

Welcome!

You're asking excellent questions; many people buy China machines and expect to just put gas and oil in 'em; it ain't like that. Like our esteemed Doctor on here (Fastdoc) says, you need to have a sense of humour to own a China bike. Basically, if you take the time to properly prepare a China machine and take care of it, it can be a functional and reliable machine.

I wouldn't bother with trying to transplant a Japanese engine into a China bike / atv; the China engines are usually the strong point. The brakes are ok, the frame is what it is and the bolts and bushings are often junk (but there are work-arounds for that).

Have you considered a China atv for hunting? It would make sense, especially for dragging a carcass out of the bush. I haven't hunted with my 200 air cooled atv, but I love it.

Sean · 05-09-2011, 02:25 AM

Thanks for the welcome.
What do you have to do to prepare these bikes?
And an atv wont work they arnt legal on trails in washington and service roads. also i dont think they sell atvs with the amount of power i would need.
I shouldnyt have a problem putting a deer on a tarp and dragging it

SpudRider · 05-09-2011, 03:30 AM

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Alright, Hello everyone, Im Sean and im new to the forums...

Welcome to these forums, Sean!

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Originally Posted by Sean

...How long do these bikes last?...

If you change the engine oil regularly, and adjust the valve lash periodically, these bikes can last a very long time.

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...Can i exchange the motor with a brand name one?...

I agree with Weldangrind.

The Chinese build very good, small-displacement, air cooled engines.

You don't need a Japanese engine for these bikes.

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Originally Posted by Sean

...do they got good power for hills...

If you choose the right sprockets, yes, these bikes have a lot of torque for hill climbing.

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Originally Posted by Sean

...What size bike should i get? im 5"4 and 120lbs...

I would recommend a 200cc engine for your size, and your intended use for the bike.

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Originally Posted by Sean

...What bike should i get?...

This question is tougher.

The short answer is, you should search for the best deal currently available.

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Originally Posted by Sean

...Should i even get a china bike?...

If you choose a Chinese motorcycle, you must be ready to do all your own repairs. You must also accept the fact that parts availability can be more difficult, and you will have very limited aftermarket support for a Chinese motorcycle.

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Originally Posted by Sean

...A few things im looking for Are:
Electric start
Exchangable parts "Basically something i can modify, if you know what i mean"
Something reliable not brake everytime i take it for a ride.
Can i put leds in these?...

Electric start is common for the dual sport chinabikes.

Some chinabikes are very rugged, while others require more preparation to ensure reliability for body hardware. For the most part, all the engines are reliable, if well cared for.

Indeed, you can install LEDs on a Chinese motorcycle.

However, as I stated earlier, the aftermarket support to modify these bikes is quite limited compared to a Japanese motorcycle.

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Originally Posted by Sean

...I know its a china bike and you get what you pay for but this is hunting im talking about, im not going to abuse the crap out of it or anything i just dont want to get stuck up in the middle of know where, and some of you may say to just save up and buy a brand name bike, but i cant afford it. Its impossible to get a job in this econemy and the prices are to high and i cant get electric start and all that fancy stuff on an older bike.but with a china bike for the price i can...

Once the price approaches $2,000, you are usually better off buying a used, Japanese motorcycle. However, if you are willing to accept the limitations, many Chinese motorcycles are excellent values when priced much less than $2,000.

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Originally Posted by Sean

...Is it worth it? Honestly?

I know im asking a lot. But i dont want to make a mistake on buying one of these.

We can help you make a better decision if you search the marketplace, and ask about a particular motorcycle you are considering for purchase.

We will let you know if you find a good deal.

Spud

Sean · 05-09-2011, 04:07 AM

Wow thanks for the info Spud.
Im really debating weather or not to go with CB or not. Its not a big problem if i come across a problems OVER TIME with the bike, but id like to get something that wont poop out on me after a few thousand miles.

When ordering these bikes, Do you have to build them? Im sure you do. And when you build them if you use lock tight and make sure everything is perfect you shouldnt have a problem correct?

As far as interest i really like the Q Link its a nice looking bike and as i have read lots of you have them. But its a bit out of my price range. I plan on spending 1400 MAX as thats all i can afford without a job. But if i get a job, 2011 klx250 ;D.

Im having troubles finding China bikes for sale. IF you can post me some links and name some bikes thatd be great. I have found the zongshen but its not Dual purpose id have to seperatley purchase a kit for that.

SpudRider · 05-09-2011, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Wow thanks for the info Spud...

You're welcome, Sean.

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Originally Posted by Sean

...When ordering these bikes, Do you have to build them? Im sure you do. And when you build them if you use lock tight and make sure everything is perfect you shouldnt have a problem correct?...

Unless you buy from a dealer, you are correct on all counts.

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Originally Posted by Sean

...Im having troubles finding China bikes for sale. IF you can post me some links and name some bikes thatd be great. I have found the zongshen but its not Dual purpose id have to seperatley purchase a kit for that.

I don't have any links for you, Sean.

However, if you search eBay, and the internet, you should be able to find some vendors.

What Zongshen bike are you referring to, and what is the asking price?

Spud

Sean · 05-09-2011, 04:38 AM

db_200c 1199 199 shipping
http://www.happyscooters.com/200cc-4...ike-p-168.html
i still like the Q better ;D

SpudRider · 05-09-2011, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

db_200c 1199 199 shipping
http://www.happyscooters.com/200cc-4...ike-p-168.html
i still like the Q better ;D

You're correct; that Zong is a dirt bike, and is not street legal. The price on that bike is also too high.

The QLink bikes are good deals at $1,500-$1,700, delivered. However, as with the Zongshen 200GY-2, the supply of overstock QLink bikes is disappearing.

Spud

Sean · 05-09-2011, 04:49 AM

im lovin the db-061
http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...googleshopping

SpudRider · 05-09-2011, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

im lovin the db-061
http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...googleshopping

That's a better deal than the last one, Sean.

That price is not bad, if it includes free shipping. However, I think this vendor is probably charging extra for shipping. :roll:

Spud

Sean · 05-09-2011, 05:11 AM

yeah im not really sure, like i said im having problems finding sellers.
Again if you know of any bikes that would suite my needs please list them =P.
how are jetmotos? and lifans

katoranger · 05-09-2011, 08:11 AM

Its not a china bike, but have you looked at the yamaha tw200? It would be perfect for hunting.

Also Doc posted about WA passing new regulation allowing dirt bikes to be tagged.

Weldangrind · 05-09-2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

im lovin the db-061
http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...googleshopping

That's (sort of) a Honda clone, as is the Lifan and Jetmoto, among several others. There is a 125 pushrod engine that is made for developing countries, and the 200cc in the pic is a bigger version of it. The pushrod engine is meant to be a reliable engine despite no maintenance. That said, maintain it properly, and it will last a long time. I have a similar motor in my atv, and it's terrific.

The Honda clones tend to be worth less than the Zong Sierra or the Qlink. They can still be good bikes, they just might take more careful prep in the beginning, as several members here will tell you.

FastDoc · 05-09-2011, 11:21 AM

Welcome to the forum my fellow Washingtonian! 8)

Since your questions have been well and correctly answered I should mention I am selling my Chinabike, a 400cc Pitster Pro.

I am selling it VERY cheap, PM me if you want specific information.

This is the highest performance Chinabike available. It will run an easy 70 on the highway, has decent suspension, brakes, and ergonomics. It is an excellent trail bike and commuter, and tolerable for some highway jaunts.

You can learn all the (honest) details about it in this forum subheading under "FastDoc's Official Pitster Pro LXT400" thread.

Sean · 05-09-2011, 05:11 PM

that tw200 looks awesome but i bet it has a heavy price.

As for the pitster send me a pm

05-09-2011, 02:03 AM	#1
Sean Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 8	China Bikes Alright, Hello everyone, Im Sean and im new to the forums. Let me start off with i am 16, In the summer i got hunting and elk durring the year. But you just cant get very far anymore walking, and taking the truck is to expensive. So my Uncle and I have been looking at 4 Stroke dual sports for a while. For some reason BRAND NAME dualsports are super expensive even older models i assume it is because of the econemy and gas prices. So im looking at something more affordable, but i want something newer. How long do these bikes last? Can i exchange the motor with a brand name one? do they got good power for hills What size bike should i get? im 5"4 and 120lbs What bike should i get? Should i even get a china bike? A few things im looking for Are: Electric start Exchangable parts "Basically something i can modify, if you know what i mean" Something reliable not brake everytime i take it for a ride. Can i put leds in these? I know its a china bike and you get what you pay for but this is hunting im talking about, im not going to abuse the crap out of it or anything i just dont want to get stuck up in the middle of know where, and some of you may say to just save up and buy a brand name bike, but i cant afford it. Its impossible to get a job in this econemy and the prices are to high and i cant get electric start and all that fancy stuff on an older bike.but with a china bike for the price i can. Is it worth it? Honestly? I know im asking a lot. But i dont want to make a mistake on buying one of these.
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05-09-2011, 02:21 AM	#2
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Welcome! You're asking excellent questions; many people buy China machines and expect to just put gas and oil in 'em; it ain't like that. Like our esteemed Doctor on here (Fastdoc) says, you need to have a sense of humour to own a China bike. Basically, if you take the time to properly prepare a China machine and take care of it, it can be a functional and reliable machine. I wouldn't bother with trying to transplant a Japanese engine into a China bike / atv; the China engines are usually the strong point. The brakes are ok, the frame is what it is and the bolts and bushings are often junk (but there are work-arounds for that). Have you considered a China atv for hunting? It would make sense, especially for dragging a carcass out of the bush. I haven't hunted with my 200 air cooled atv, but I love it. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-09-2011, 08:11 AM	#12
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Its not a china bike, but have you looked at the yamaha tw200? It would be perfect for hunting. Also Doc posted about WA passing new regulation allowing dirt bikes to be tagged. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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05-09-2011, 11:21 AM	#14
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Welcome to the forum my fellow Washingtonian! 8) Since your questions have been well and correctly answered I should mention I am selling my Chinabike, a 400cc Pitster Pro. I am selling it VERY cheap, PM me if you want specific information. This is the highest performance Chinabike available. It will run an easy 70 on the highway, has decent suspension, brakes, and ergonomics. It is an excellent trail bike and commuter, and tolerable for some highway jaunts. You can learn all the (honest) details about it in this forum subheading under "FastDoc's Official Pitster Pro LXT400" thread. __________________ Happy to serve.
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05-09-2011, 02:25 AM	#3
Sean Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 8	Thanks for the welcome. What do you have to do to prepare these bikes? And an atv wont work they arnt legal on trails in washington and service roads. also i dont think they sell atvs with the amount of power i would need. I shouldnyt have a problem putting a deer on a tarp and dragging it
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05-09-2011, 04:07 AM	#5
Sean Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 8	Wow thanks for the info Spud. Im really debating weather or not to go with CB or not. Its not a big problem if i come across a problems OVER TIME with the bike, but id like to get something that wont poop out on me after a few thousand miles. When ordering these bikes, Do you have to build them? Im sure you do. And when you build them if you use lock tight and make sure everything is perfect you shouldnt have a problem correct? As far as interest i really like the Q Link its a nice looking bike and as i have read lots of you have them. But its a bit out of my price range. I plan on spending 1400 MAX as thats all i can afford without a job. But if i get a job, 2011 klx250 ;D. Im having troubles finding China bikes for sale. IF you can post me some links and name some bikes thatd be great. I have found the zongshen but its not Dual purpose id have to seperatley purchase a kit for that.
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05-09-2011, 04:38 AM	#7
Sean Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 8	db_200c 1199 199 shipping http://www.happyscooters.com/200cc-4...ike-p-168.html i still like the Q better ;D
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05-09-2011, 04:49 AM	#9
Sean Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 8	im lovin the db-061 http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...googleshopping
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05-09-2011, 05:11 AM	#11
Sean Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 8	yeah im not really sure, like i said im having problems finding sellers. Again if you know of any bikes that would suite my needs please list them =P. how are jetmotos? and lifans
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05-09-2011, 05:11 PM	#15
Sean Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 8	that tw200 looks awesome but i bet it has a heavy price. As for the pitster send me a pm
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