Better air filter setup for dirt?

FMYStreetRacer · 04-24-2007, 08:47 PM

i just took my first look ever at my air filter. after getting it off i noticed that the whole intake tube was full of dirt. anyone know of a better filter i could use for the dirt? i'll change the whole box if needed.

ob1 · 04-24-2007, 09:01 PM

Did you have grease between the filter and the air box? They make a special grease to seal that junction.

If your filter gets too dirty, the air will find another way in, so keep it clean!

ob1 · 04-24-2007, 09:05 PM

The air box is best for dirt riding. The relatively calm air inside allows larger particle to settle, rather than get stuck to the filter.

Here is a link to the grease. I am sure you can find other brands and prices. I like to spead a bit in the bottom of the air box to trap the dirt that falls there.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...rt=knn-99-0704

FMYStreetRacer · 04-24-2007, 09:31 PM

i'll be sure to head to the store this week to get some air cleaner service kit stuff and that grease.

frostbite · 04-24-2007, 09:37 PM

Good idea. Is there a reason why regular automotive grease wouldn't work?

liverchip · 04-24-2007, 09:41 PM

I don't see why it wouldn't. As long as it's nice thick stuff, it should seal nicely, in my opinion anyway.

mdsuave13 · 04-24-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by frostbite

Good idea. Is there a reason why regular automotive grease wouldn't work?

heck, i bet petroleum jelly would work.. although it may get thin if it gets really hot....

but i have a feeling the standard "blue" or black axle grease would work pretty well for that. I dont know, i ripped my airbox off the first chance i could! (i don't ride off road a ton)

ob1 · 04-24-2007, 10:41 PM

I wouldnt go with the blue or black grease, too thin. The old timey yellow or brown grease would probably do.

The important part is keeping the filter clean.

sheadouglas · 04-24-2007, 10:58 PM

How the heck do you take the air filter off? This could be a bad deal for me. I havent checked it since I got it. I want to do this so maybe someone could give me details 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

FMYStreetRacer · 04-24-2007, 11:26 PM

i have a roketa so i just take the left side cover off, take the air box cover off and remove the two screws that hold the air filter in the box. i think my main problem is the actual seal itself. it looks bent pver in spots and not in others.

ambassador · 04-25-2007, 12:07 AM

The seal is a joke on these bikes, the rubber is all bent at the box and trying to mount up to a rubber/foam gasket, it works but not that well, I'd go with a UNI or the equivalant, the stock box on these is just a BAD design, not the box itself, just the way they have the carb intake mounted to the box...Better off pulling the box out and go UNI/K&M or mod your own...

FMYStreetRacer · 04-25-2007, 12:27 AM

yeah maybe i'll mod my own to fit in the stock box.

TeamCheap · 04-25-2007, 05:45 AM

I ditched the stock airbox after seeing the poor fitting seal around the rubber intake tube and the box.The stuff just was not fitted properly and there was what looked like black rtv or some other goop they used to seal it.
Anyway there was a chance of dirt getting in thru past the filter so I just decided to go with a K&N and it fits perfect.
I wanted to use a UNI but wasnt comfortable about getting the right size.

I'm putting a different engine in that came with a 30mm carb the say which measures 42mm at the most across the outside and the K&N rc-1120 fit perfect.
slightly snug to slide it on so with the clamp tight it will be perfect.

FMYStreetRacer · 04-25-2007, 06:19 PM

i couldn't ever bring myself to put a K&N on anything that i know would ever see any dirt. i have a K&N on my car and i have to constantly clean the throttle body, intercooler, turbo compressor housing etc.

red2003 · 04-25-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FMYStreetRacer

i couldn't ever bring myself to put a K&N on anything that i know would ever see any dirt. i have a K&N on my car and i have to constantly clean the throttle body, intercooler, turbo compressor housing etc.

Are you maintaining the filter correctly, ie clean and oil regularly? I ran K & N's on all my DIRT track race cars and they filter better then anything on the market. I Ran the same filter on my 600 HP V8 for 3 years strait in absolute dustbowl conditions and never got a speck of dirt in the carb. You must be letting contamination through somewhere else????

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04-24-2007, 09:31 PM	#4
FMYStreetRacer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ft. Myers, Fl. Posts: 416	i'll be sure to head to the store this week to get some air cleaner service kit stuff and that grease. __________________ Roketa DB-07a HID Headlight
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04-24-2007, 11:26 PM	#10
FMYStreetRacer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ft. Myers, Fl. Posts: 416	i have a roketa so i just take the left side cover off, take the air box cover off and remove the two screws that hold the air filter in the box. i think my main problem is the actual seal itself. it looks bent pver in spots and not in others. __________________ Roketa DB-07a HID Headlight
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04-24-2007, 09:01 PM	#2
ob1 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 499	Did you have grease between the filter and the air box? They make a special grease to seal that junction. If your filter gets too dirty, the air will find another way in, so keep it clean!
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04-24-2007, 09:05 PM	#3
ob1 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 499	The air box is best for dirt riding. The relatively calm air inside allows larger particle to settle, rather than get stuck to the filter. Here is a link to the grease. I am sure you can find other brands and prices. I like to spead a bit in the bottom of the air box to trap the dirt that falls there. http://store.summitracing.com/partde...rt=knn-99-0704
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04-24-2007, 10:41 PM	#8
ob1 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 499	I wouldnt go with the blue or black grease, too thin. The old timey yellow or brown grease would probably do. The important part is keeping the filter clean.
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04-24-2007, 10:58 PM	#9
sheadouglas Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hattiesburg, Mississippi Posts: 349	How the heck do you take the air filter off? This could be a bad deal for me. I havent checked it since I got it. I want to do this so maybe someone could give me details 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O
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04-25-2007, 12:07 AM	#11
ambassador Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bradenton, Florida Posts: 1,200	The seal is a joke on these bikes, the rubber is all bent at the box and trying to mount up to a rubber/foam gasket, it works but not that well, I'd go with a UNI or the equivalant, the stock box on these is just a BAD design, not the box itself, just the way they have the carb intake mounted to the box...Better off pulling the box out and go UNI/K&M or mod your own... __________________ 06 Lifan 200 GY-5
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04-25-2007, 12:27 AM	#12
FMYStreetRacer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ft. Myers, Fl. Posts: 416	yeah maybe i'll mod my own to fit in the stock box. __________________ Roketa DB-07a HID Headlight
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04-25-2007, 05:45 AM	#13
TeamCheap Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: directly under the earths sun............NOW Posts: 2,302	I ditched the stock airbox after seeing the poor fitting seal around the rubber intake tube and the box.The stuff just was not fitted properly and there was what looked like black rtv or some other goop they used to seal it. Anyway there was a chance of dirt getting in thru past the filter so I just decided to go with a K&N and it fits perfect. I wanted to use a UNI but wasnt comfortable about getting the right size. I'm putting a different engine in that came with a 30mm carb the say which measures 42mm at the most across the outside and the K&N rc-1120 fit perfect. slightly snug to slide it on so with the clamp tight it will be perfect.
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04-25-2007, 06:19 PM	#14
FMYStreetRacer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ft. Myers, Fl. Posts: 416	i couldn't ever bring myself to put a K&N on anything that i know would ever see any dirt. i have a K&N on my car and i have to constantly clean the throttle body, intercooler, turbo compressor housing etc. __________________ Roketa DB-07a HID Headlight
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