What is it....really?

2LZ · 05-08-2010, 12:30 PM

Last night, I was enjoying a cold Miller Lite at my workbench....listening to some old southern rock. The weather was perfect. I looked up at my collection of manuals and reading material and thought, "There's no better time than the present to get a chuckle out of reading my poorly translated new China bike owners manual." I have really yet to do it....so I started leafing through it.

One of the things that has always been a question is "What is it....really?"
I've always refered to my new bike as a Lifanoid, (I won't tell you everyone really calls it) a term I picked up here. Seemed to fit. It's a Honda clone, looks like a Lifan but probably isn't one....or who really knows?
I do know that both mellisann's and my bike are listed as X-moto's on the origin cert.....and are identical with the exception of the forks. I always figured that X-moto was the importer of the 'seemingly generic' China bike and nothing more.

After reading the first few pages of the manual enjoying phrases like, "Thank you for your purchasing motorcycle" and other gems, I hit the warranty. My eyes just about bugged out of my head! :o
Here is a manual, for my exact bike....pictures and all. It says:

"In the interests of reliability and safety, you are advised to have your machine serviced at the specific intervals by an appointed Zongshen dealer...." It goes on to say, "Your Zongshen dealer will arrange to deliver your machine to a CBT centre if required."

Could this be true????? 8O Could my Lifanoid/X-moto/Honda clone really be a Zong? Have I woken up this morning, being unknowingly sucked into the Cult? :?

Jim · 05-08-2010, 01:20 PM

I don't think so, but I could be wrong?

SpudRider · 05-08-2010, 02:20 PM

Zongshen manufactures a lot of the engines employed by the Lifanoid motorcycles.

Spud

Jim · 05-08-2010, 03:02 PM

I thought the zong engines looked different though?

TurboT · 05-08-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim

I thought the zong engines looked different though?

I believe my quad is a Zong motor and it looks different (or is) than the Sierra powerplant. I think Zongshen is the largest engine manufacturer in China so it makes sense they'd make a couple different designs. If not a lot.

waynev · 05-08-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

"There's no better time than the present to get a chuckle out of reading my poorly translated new China bike owners manual."

Yeah, you've got to love the manuals, here's a pic of the rear cover of my just sold GIO 125cc, boy i'm glad i drink beer or rye, lol.

Weldangrind · 05-08-2010, 06:13 PM

That's hilarious! I wonder what a publec road is? (I'm assuming that we all know that RUM means Restricted Use Motorcycle).

My Lifanoid Beast quad clearly says Zongshen on it. Zongshen doesn't just manufacture the Yamaha TW200 engine.

I'm a member of the Cult of the Zong.

Jim · 05-08-2010, 07:08 PM

My atv had a water cooled zongshen engine, but it's gone, so I guess I'm out of the club...

MICRider · 05-08-2010, 07:12 PM

Both my Beast and my sons Mini-Beast say Zongshen on the cases... I think Zong is assimilating the world!

P.S. On a side note, my MTD snowblower has a "Powermore" engine on it... Made by Zongshen...

phil · 05-08-2010, 08:06 PM

zong does make a lot of engines for just about everyone, the only thing is when they are branded zong on the bike they use the tw copy i have had a couple of different brands with the zong motor but i have never seen a zong bike with push rods

AZ200cc · 05-08-2010, 10:22 PM

I was under the impression that Zongshen and Loncin made the majority of the motors. I will probably be corrected, It happens often

SpudRider · 05-08-2010, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

...My Lifanoid Beast quad clearly says Zongshen on it. Zongshen doesn't just manufacture the Yamaha TW200 engine.

I'm a member of the Cult of the Zong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MICRider

Both my Beast and my sons Mini-Beast say Zongshen on the cases... I think Zong is assimilating the world!

P.S. On a side note, my MTD snowblower has a "Powermore" engine on it... Made by Zongshen...

Resistance is futile.

Spud

recracer · 05-08-2010, 10:39 PM

LMAO

culcune · 05-09-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ200cc

I was under the impression that Zongshen and Loncin made the majority of the motors. I will probably be corrected, It happens often

No, you are correct-ish. Loncin engines have been utilized alot lately in the Apollo, Galaxy, and Pitster bikes (the 'claimed' 250cc water-cooled engine as well as the 223cc air-cooled engines, such as those used in the same bikes above and the Hensim that has been written about lately)

However, I do think that Zongshen are used the most, while the Loncins have been more high-profile lately.

FastDoc · 05-09-2010, 09:45 PM

I've always assumed pushrod motors are Lifanoid but maybe Zong makes them too.

I don't really know what half of us are riding, but they're all fun.

Even without the rum.

BTW, sitting in the garage and drinking beer listening to rock reading a manual is like Heaven.

05-08-2010, 12:30 PM	#1
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,101	What is it....really? Last night, I was enjoying a cold Miller Lite at my workbench....listening to some old southern rock. The weather was perfect. I looked up at my collection of manuals and reading material and thought, "There's no better time than the present to get a chuckle out of reading my poorly translated new China bike owners manual." I have really yet to do it....so I started leafing through it. One of the things that has always been a question is "What is it....really?" I've always refered to my new bike as a Lifanoid, (I won't tell you everyone really calls it) a term I picked up here. Seemed to fit. It's a Honda clone, looks like a Lifan but probably isn't one....or who really knows? I do know that both mellisann's and my bike are listed as X-moto's on the origin cert.....and are identical with the exception of the forks. I always figured that X-moto was the importer of the 'seemingly generic' China bike and nothing more. After reading the first few pages of the manual enjoying phrases like, "Thank you for your purchasing motorcycle" and other gems, I hit the warranty. My eyes just about bugged out of my head! :o Here is a manual, for my exact bike....pictures and all. It says: "In the interests of reliability and safety, you are advised to have your machine serviced at the specific intervals by an appointed Zongshen dealer...." It goes on to say, "Your Zongshen dealer will arrange to deliver your machine to a CBT centre if required." Could this be true????? 8O Could my Lifanoid/X-moto/Honda clone really be a Zong? Have I woken up this morning, being unknowingly sucked into the Cult? :? __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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05-08-2010, 01:20 PM	#2
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	I don't think so, but I could be wrong? __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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05-08-2010, 02:20 PM	#3
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Zongshen manufactures a lot of the engines employed by the Lifanoid motorcycles. Spud __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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05-08-2010, 03:02 PM	#4
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	I thought the zong engines looked different though? __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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05-08-2010, 06:13 PM	#7
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That's hilarious! I wonder what a publec road is? (I'm assuming that we all know that RUM means Restricted Use Motorcycle). My Lifanoid Beast quad clearly says Zongshen on it. Zongshen doesn't just manufacture the Yamaha TW200 engine. I'm a member of the Cult of the Zong. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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05-08-2010, 07:08 PM	#8
Jim Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Posts: 4,880	My atv had a water cooled zongshen engine, but it's gone, so I guess I'm out of the club... __________________ "Be excellent to each other" "We are all human. Let's start to prove it!"
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05-08-2010, 07:12 PM	#9
MICRider Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 3,274	Both my Beast and my sons Mini-Beast say Zongshen on the cases... I think Zong is assimilating the world! P.S. On a side note, my MTD snowblower has a "Powermore" engine on it... Made by Zongshen...
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05-08-2010, 08:06 PM	#10
phil Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: wise va Posts: 636	zong does make a lot of engines for just about everyone, the only thing is when they are branded zong on the bike they use the tw copy i have had a couple of different brands with the zong motor but i have never seen a zong bike with push rods __________________ halls auto l coolster, modcycles, yanmar & zongshen, dealer fired roketa,lifan and jet moto and apollo quit me who's next
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05-08-2010, 10:22 PM	#11
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	I was under the impression that Zongshen and Loncin made the majority of the motors. I will probably be corrected, It happens often __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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05-08-2010, 10:39 PM	#13
recracer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charles Town W.V. Posts: 849	LMAO
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05-09-2010, 09:45 PM	#15
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	I've always assumed pushrod motors are Lifanoid but maybe Zong makes them too. I don't really know what half of us are riding, but they're all fun. Even without the rum. BTW, sitting in the garage and drinking beer listening to rock reading a manual is like Heaven. __________________ Happy to serve.
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