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Old 04-09-2010, 02:53 AM   #1
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New Gio owner

Hi All!

Just got a new gio 125cc dirt bike and gio 200 cc rebel quad. Couple of questions. The dirt bike keeps throwing the chain-ran good for two weeks then started throwing the chain, mostly on turns. I bought a new chain but am needing a "chain tool" to adjust the length is this necessary or can someone tell me how to do this with a hammer and screwdriver? Also the quad was listed as max speed of 80 km, we are only hitting 40km any tricks to improve speed? We have clocked the dirt bike at 95km on flat dirt road and that is a 125cc. Even taking in consideration of heavier frame of the quad (rider is the same weight) I figure we should be getting better than 40km. Any thoughts, my 13 year old is a little sad with the lack of speed. Ya, I'm new to this world so simple language is best. (Not that simple I did already make a new gasket out of cardboard and gasket oil to solve a problem with the quad reving at full throttle.) Ya, I'm from Saskatchewan and we do stuff like that.


 
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Old 04-09-2010, 04:24 AM   #2
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Re: New Gio owner

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Hi All!

Just got a new gio 125cc dirt bike and gio 200 cc rebel quad. Couple of questions. The dirt bike keeps throwing the chain-ran good for two weeks then started throwing the chain, mostly on turns. I bought a new chain but am needing a "chain tool" to adjust the length is this necessary or can someone tell me how to do this with a hammer and screwdriver? Also the quad was listed as max speed of 80 km, we are only hitting 40km any tricks to improve speed? We have clocked the dirt bike at 95km on flat dirt road and that is a 125cc. Even taking in consideration of heavier frame of the quad (rider is the same weight) I figure we should be getting better than 40km. Any thoughts, my 13 year old is a little sad with the lack of speed. Ya, I'm new to this world so simple language is best. (Not that simple I did already make a new gasket out of cardboard and gasket oil to solve a problem with the quad reving at full throttle.) Ya, I'm from Saskatchewan and we do stuff like that.
I'll leave the chain to the chain experts, but you should be able to grind one of the link posts and hammer it out with a chisel.

The quad should be capable of more speed. Stupid questions first, have you removed the govenor screw out of it that would stop the throttle from being wide open? Also, you may have a loose throttle cable that would be preventing the needle opening. You should feel tension on the throttle without much play when you first push it in.

If those two things aren't the issue, you may need to do some tuning on the carb, or replace it with a mikuni. I know our older Gio Beast 200cc quads will do 60km/hr without much trouble, and I'm not sure you'd want to go much faster on them. 8O

I'm interested in the gasket issue. Where was the oil leak coming from while revving at full throttle?


 
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Old 04-09-2010, 04:28 AM   #3
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Re: New Gio owner

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...The dirt bike keeps throwing the chain-ran good for two weeks then started throwing the chain, mostly on turns. I bought a new chain but am needing a "chain tool" to adjust the length is this necessary or can someone tell me how to do this with a hammer and screwdriver?...
Welcome, Belai.

If you have a Dremel tool, you don’t need a chain breaker; you can use a cutting wheel to grind down two adjacent pins on one side of an outside link. After grinding the pins, you can drive them out the other side of the chain using a hammer and punch. However, you can also buy an inexpensive chain breaker to push the two pins (and the outside link) out the other side of the chain.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...112&zmap=66488
http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/pr...dFamilyId=3001

Even if you purchase an inexpensive chain breaker, it is still best to first grind down the pins. I always use my Dremel tool to grind down the pins before I use an inexpensive chain breaker to push the pins out the other side of the chain.

Before you break the chain, always remember you need to finish with an even number of links, including the master link. Also, it is always better to break the chain a little too long, rather than too short. If the chain is a little too long, you can break it shorter; however, if the chain is too short, you will need to buy another drive chain.

P.S. Since your questions are mostly related to your Gio ATV, I moved your post into the ATV forum; I did this so you could receive more responses, and more help, from our knowledgeable, ATV owners.

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Old 04-09-2010, 11:59 AM   #4
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Welcome belai!

My heritage goes back to Saskatchewan, in the area NW of Saskatoon. I've covered virtually every area South of PA. Beautiful country. What part are you in?

I use a 4 1/2" angle grinder with a flap disc (less agressive than a grinding disc) to remove the top edge of the pins, then pop it apart with a pin puch and a hammer. I have a chain tool, but i don't use it. Just be careful to not overheat the links and turn 'em blue.

In addition to what TurboT said, the exhaust is quite restrictive, and it would benefit from some surgery. Do you have a MIG at home?
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