I'm stupid

undertulsa · 06-09-2009, 08:03 PM

Ok the same dealer that almost killed me by not having the shock main bolt on told me that to check oil i needed to screw all the way in threads, i now find out that no i shouldnt have listened to them... I over filled oil, leak back from the sensor area. _hit! dealer wants 100-200 to do gasket
if i can fix dells all day surely i can change the gaskets myself. bike runs great, small oil leak pain in arse... mess in my garage.

funny thing is it only leaks after it completely cools down, not while hot telling me that well at least gaskets working when hot and expanded.

one of you rich doctors or laywers please just mail me a new harley.

thanks, suggestions will be considered after suicide. lol

mN. :evil:

TheRealWorld · 06-09-2009, 11:04 PM

How much oil did you have in it? I am not sure you are diagnosing the problem correctly.

undertulsa · 06-09-2009, 11:20 PM

put a quart definately leaking from the shift sensor. thoughts?

TheRealWorld · 06-09-2009, 11:32 PM

In my opinion a quart is not going to damage that engine. I don't have a comment on your leak, because I am not sure what that leak area looks like. I do think someone will know. I think you can relax a bit, this should not be a big deal.

Wish I could be more help.

AZ200cc · 06-10-2009, 12:00 AM

A quart on top of what was aready in it?...By screwing the dipstick all the way in You should have been almost spot on.....If not the correct way You would have underfilled not over filled...Know what I mean.

Cal25 · 06-10-2009, 08:39 AM

Take the 200 bucks and save it for your next bike. Buy one of those big flat drip pans to park on and go have some fun. No way the difference between screwing the dipstick in and pushing it in till it touches would make enough difference to create an oil leak.

undertulsa · 06-10-2009, 08:47 AM

No i drained it before adding the quart. It had orig. oil from factory, removed cleaned filter screen, added quart only. Leak started. drained oil found where its leaking, had to remove front sprocket cover to reach, leak is coming out of that black sensor plug middle of the picture with the one nut on it.

http://picasaweb.google.com/undertul...06225782688866

Weldangrind · 06-10-2009, 11:51 AM

The leak is not likely the result of over-filling; as AZ200cc says, screwing the cap in all the way would result in under-filling.

You likely either have a vent problem or, more likely, a bad o-ring. Remove the vent hose from the back of the engine and make sure it's not kinked or plugged (if this hose can't vent pressure, the pressure will find another way out).

To repair the leak, drain the oil and remove the sensor (which is likely a shift indicator or a neutral light switch). There will be a small o-ring on the sensor that you need to change; remove it carefully (use something plastic to remove the o-ring if you can).

You can buy an assorted kit full of o-rings from places like Harbor Freight for very little cash (this is the set I have: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2901 ). Failing that, a local industrial supply store can match up the o-ring that you removed. Carefully install the new o-ring and make sure to put a little fresh engine oil on the new o-ring before you slide the sensor back in place. Don't over-tighten the retaining bolt, and you're done.

Far too simple for talk of suicide.

katoranger · 06-10-2009, 01:34 PM

Also Ace hardware or good parts stores like Napa carry oring assortments. Usually you can buy just the one you need for pennies.

Allen

BUG · 06-11-2009, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by undertulsa

No i drained it before adding the quart. It had orig. oil from factory, removed cleaned filter screen, added quart only. Leak started. drained oil found where its leaking, had to remove front sprocket cover to reach, leak is coming out of that black sensor plug middle of the picture with the one nut on it.

http://picasaweb.google.com/undertul...06225782688866

Every time i change my oil i use a full quart. It puts the level right between the high and low level in the sight glass. I don't think I've ever used the dipstick.

AZ200cc · 06-11-2009, 01:04 AM

Oh and You're not stupid, Stupid people CAN'T or WON'T learn...You'll get it. Nobody is dumb because they don't know about something they have never done before.

undertulsa · 06-11-2009, 10:43 AM

well ive only every put a quart in it so maybe this was defect from start?

FastDoc · 06-11-2009, 11:07 AM

Yup. Now you've got it

. Welcome to our world of ChinaBikes :roll: .

undertulsa · 06-11-2009, 02:48 PM

Ok went to local parts store gave guy oring to match he only had one slightly bigger (YEAH!) thats exactly what i needed this time installed and fits snug tightened down, but not too much its plastic piece on the sensor.

bought a spare at 55cents a piece.

based on how snug it was almost had to force it in put finally went into place having to push down on it to get it in. dont think it will leak now, check the pressure valve tube off the back of engine not clogged or restricted.

gonna test ride now

FastDoc · 06-11-2009, 02:58 PM

Cool. BTW I'd love to see some pics of where you ride in laska!

06-09-2009, 08:03 PM	#1
undertulsa Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 219	I'm stupid Ok the same dealer that almost killed me by not having the shock main bolt on told me that to check oil i needed to screw all the way in threads, i now find out that no i shouldnt have listened to them... I over filled oil, leak back from the sensor area. _hit! dealer wants 100-200 to do gasket if i can fix dells all day surely i can change the gaskets myself. bike runs great, small oil leak pain in arse... mess in my garage. funny thing is it only leaks after it completely cools down, not while hot telling me that well at least gaskets working when hot and expanded. one of you rich doctors or laywers please just mail me a new harley. thanks, suggestions will be considered after suicide. lol mN. :evil:
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06-09-2009, 11:20 PM	#3
undertulsa Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 219	Oil put a quart definately leaking from the shift sensor. thoughts?
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06-10-2009, 12:00 AM	#5
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	A quart on top of what was aready in it?...By screwing the dipstick all the way in You should have been almost spot on.....If not the correct way You would have underfilled not over filled...Know what I mean. __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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06-10-2009, 08:47 AM	#7
undertulsa Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 219	explain No i drained it before adding the quart. It had orig. oil from factory, removed cleaned filter screen, added quart only. Leak started. drained oil found where its leaking, had to remove front sprocket cover to reach, leak is coming out of that black sensor plug middle of the picture with the one nut on it. http://picasaweb.google.com/undertul...06225782688866
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06-10-2009, 11:51 AM	#8
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	The leak is not likely the result of over-filling; as AZ200cc says, screwing the cap in all the way would result in under-filling. You likely either have a vent problem or, more likely, a bad o-ring. Remove the vent hose from the back of the engine and make sure it's not kinked or plugged (if this hose can't vent pressure, the pressure will find another way out). To repair the leak, drain the oil and remove the sensor (which is likely a shift indicator or a neutral light switch). There will be a small o-ring on the sensor that you need to change; remove it carefully (use something plastic to remove the o-ring if you can). You can buy an assorted kit full of o-rings from places like Harbor Freight for very little cash (this is the set I have: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2901 ). Failing that, a local industrial supply store can match up the o-ring that you removed. Carefully install the new o-ring and make sure to put a little fresh engine oil on the new o-ring before you slide the sensor back in place. Don't over-tighten the retaining bolt, and you're done. Far too simple for talk of suicide. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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06-09-2009, 11:04 PM	#2
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	How much oil did you have in it? I am not sure you are diagnosing the problem correctly.
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06-09-2009, 11:32 PM	#4
TheRealWorld Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 817	In my opinion a quart is not going to damage that engine. I don't have a comment on your leak, because I am not sure what that leak area looks like. I do think someone will know. I think you can relax a bit, this should not be a big deal. Wish I could be more help.
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06-10-2009, 08:39 AM	#6
Cal25 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Terrell and Grapevine Tx. Posts: 1,585	Take the 200 bucks and save it for your next bike. Buy one of those big flat drip pans to park on and go have some fun. No way the difference between screwing the dipstick in and pushing it in till it touches would make enough difference to create an oil leak.
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06-10-2009, 01:34 PM	#9
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Also Ace hardware or good parts stores like Napa carry oring assortments. Usually you can buy just the one you need for pennies. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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06-11-2009, 01:04 AM	#11
AZ200cc Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Show Low Arizona Posts: 2,889	Oh and You're not stupid, Stupid people CAN'T or WON'T learn...You'll get it. Nobody is dumb because they don't know about something they have never done before. __________________ <br />2001 Suzuki DR200SE<br />1997 Suzuki RM250 YIKES<br />1995 Yamaha Breeze 125 daughters<br />1991 Honda XR80r Restored<br />maybe a 2003 Yamaha TTR90
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06-11-2009, 10:43 AM	#12
undertulsa Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 219	so perhaps well ive only every put a quart in it so maybe this was defect from start?
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06-11-2009, 11:07 AM	#13
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Yup. Now you've got it . Welcome to our world of ChinaBikes :roll: . __________________ Happy to serve.
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06-11-2009, 02:48 PM	#14
undertulsa Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 219	O ring Ok went to local parts store gave guy oring to match he only had one slightly bigger (YEAH!) thats exactly what i needed this time installed and fits snug tightened down, but not too much its plastic piece on the sensor. bought a spare at 55cents a piece. based on how snug it was almost had to force it in put finally went into place having to push down on it to get it in. dont think it will leak now, check the pressure valve tube off the back of engine not clogged or restricted. gonna test ride now
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06-11-2009, 02:58 PM	#15
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Cool. BTW I'd love to see some pics of where you ride in laska! __________________ Happy to serve.
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