Please help me decide? =(

2Fast4U · 08-28-2008, 01:44 PM

I am looking at a few Enduros but the pickings are tough. I was considering the one at nitro-motors but the owner told me that he could not guarantee that I would be able to register it. He also told me that he could print anything I wanted him to on the title if it would help get it past the DMV. He also told me the bike does not even have a speedo. I am a little confused, the price is a tad high and I may not even be able to use it if I buy it. Anyone have experience with this one?

http://www.nitro-motors.com/product_...7108457bc1b621

I know I want to buy new, what are my options besides Lifan?
I also really love the way the Orions/Apollo look but I don't know if they could be DMV legal or be made to be.

Thanks

liverchip · 08-28-2008, 02:39 PM

All depends on which state you live.

alonzo · 08-28-2008, 04:02 PM

either buy a used jap that is guranteed to be legal, or wait for the main importers to start slinging stock again.

AZ200cc · 08-28-2008, 06:49 PM

Looks nice, You might be able to rig up a bicycle speedo and make it legal but I am not sure. It has the lights to be legal but I don't know what Your state requires.

theENIGMATIC · 08-28-2008, 07:25 PM

If you want to guarantee street use I would go for a cheaper different China bike, in my opinion that bike does not look to good for street use, it would need the speedo etc....it looks cool but it just does not quite reach street use standards, someone else on the site got one and had some problems with it.no horn etc, not sure how that worked out, by the time you invest the cash into making that street safe you will probably spend close to $2000, look into it but I dont think it will be as easy as some China bikes to get street plates, good luck!

Savage · 08-28-2008, 10:35 PM

I think you'd have to be a small person to enjoy those bikes. The rims are only 16/19 and they don't look small at all on the bike.

forchetto · 08-29-2008, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage

I think you'd have to be a small person to enjoy those bikes.

The seat height is quoted at 39.11".
I would need a trampoline to get on one.

Savage · 08-29-2008, 07:56 AM

It also claims 140lbs.

forchetto · 08-30-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage

It also claims 140lbs.

Thats about 63 kg. Exactly what my Jincheng JC50Q-7 Monkey bike weighs...
Maybe it's made from Unobtanium.

andzman · 08-30-2008, 08:13 PM

If you are looking for an absolute beginner bike buy a China ride. If you have even the slightest aspiration of or expectation of a normal or 'Japanese' ride save your money and buy a used Japanese bike. I bought one of these bikes months ago. I like the bike but I should have put the money towards a real bike.

tigertamer · 08-30-2008, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andzman

If you are looking for an absolute beginner bike buy a China ride. If you have even the slightest aspiration of or expectation of a normal or 'Japanese' ride save your money and buy a used Japanese bike. I bought one of these bikes months ago. I like the bike but I should have put the money towards a real bike.

iMoose · 09-01-2008, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andzman

If you are looking for an absolute beginner bike buy a China ride. If you have even the slightest aspiration of or expectation of a normal or 'Japanese' ride save your money and buy a used Japanese bike. I bought one of these bikes months ago. I like the bike but I should have put the money towards a real bike.

Is this guy Porterzcustoms again? Jeesh. What a crybaby.

IronFist · 09-01-2008, 06:59 PM

The situation is being dealt with. No worries. :wink:

VinceDrake · 09-01-2008, 11:15 PM

Since we're back to this again, there's 2 issues that I think should be brought up:

a.) How willing are you to educate yourself? If you want a full-service dealer and a 100% reliable piece of machinery, or if you're not willing to learn beyond tires and oil changes, You'd be best to look elsewhere. I.e. Japan, Germany, etc. If you're the type who enjoys a cheallenge, and likes to learn (usually the hard way) China-Horse might just be the ticket.

b.) Is the unit to be a Toy or a Tool? If you don't mind educating yourself, Is the bike a weekend toy or you number 1 transport? Again, for #1 Transport, they might be a disappointment, until you get the bugs worked out. The learning curve is usually steep and harsh. I have to defer to other member of the board though, on average, how long did it take to get the bikes ironed out? Kato? I/F? Red?

I think they're questions that need to be asked. The vehicle should be sold to the customer, not the Customer sold to the vehicle, if you know what I mean?

--Vince

katoranger · 09-01-2008, 11:27 PM

It took about the first 1000kms to get all the bugs out of mine.

It still had some more issued, but I have ridden almost everyday and never been stranded.

These bikes are not for those who want to press a button and go. Great learning tools and really simple to work on.

Allen

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katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	It took about the first 1000kms to get all the bugs out of mine. It still had some more issued, but I have ridden almost everyday and never been stranded. These bikes are not for those who want to press a button and go. Great learning tools and really simple to work on. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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08-28-2008, 01:44 PM	#1
2Fast4U Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1	Please help me decide? =( I am looking at a few Enduros but the pickings are tough. I was considering the one at nitro-motors but the owner told me that he could not guarantee that I would be able to register it. He also told me that he could print anything I wanted him to on the title if it would help get it past the DMV. He also told me the bike does not even have a speedo. I am a little confused, the price is a tad high and I may not even be able to use it if I buy it. Anyone have experience with this one? http://www.nitro-motors.com/product_...7108457bc1b621 I know I want to buy new, what are my options besides Lifan? I also really love the way the Orions/Apollo look but I don't know if they could be DMV legal or be made to be. Thanks
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08-28-2008, 04:02 PM	#3
alonzo Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 527	either buy a used jap that is guranteed to be legal, or wait for the main importers to start slinging stock again.
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08-28-2008, 07:25 PM	#5
theENIGMATIC Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 392	If you want to guarantee street use I would go for a cheaper different China bike, in my opinion that bike does not look to good for street use, it would need the speedo etc....it looks cool but it just does not quite reach street use standards, someone else on the site got one and had some problems with it.no horn etc, not sure how that worked out, by the time you invest the cash into making that street safe you will probably spend close to $2000, look into it but I dont think it will be as easy as some China bikes to get street plates, good luck!
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08-28-2008, 10:35 PM	#6
Savage Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 732	I think you'd have to be a small person to enjoy those bikes. The rims are only 16/19 and they don't look small at all on the bike.
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08-29-2008, 07:56 AM	#8
Savage Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 732	It also claims 140lbs.
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08-30-2008, 08:13 PM	#10
andzman Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 51	If you are looking for an absolute beginner bike buy a China ride. If you have even the slightest aspiration of or expectation of a normal or 'Japanese' ride save your money and buy a used Japanese bike. I bought one of these bikes months ago. I like the bike but I should have put the money towards a real bike.
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