Can't get a 128 link chain on my Brozz.

Bill Hilly · 03-17-2021, 02:55 PM

I bought a 132 link Niche gold chain for my Brozz with the understanding that I should cut it down to 128 links, which I did, and now I'm coming up top short. I have my axle slid forward all the way. The stock chain had about 130 links. Has anyone put a 128 link chain on a stock 2020 Brozz 250?

tknj99 · 03-17-2021, 03:01 PM

I did.. i bought it as 128 link.. but i also bought a 42T rear at the same time and had to take 1 link out

Bill Hilly · 03-17-2021, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tknj99

I did.. i bought it as 128 link.. but i also bought a 42T rear at the same time and had to take 1 link out

I may just end up having to buy the 42 tooth rear.. Do you have the link, or info on what fits it?

tknj99 · 03-17-2021, 04:27 PM

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

tknj99 · 03-17-2021, 04:27 PM

And in case you want to end up exactly where i am now:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Bill Hilly · 03-17-2021, 04:34 PM

Thanks tknj99.. I will put my old chain back on, and order at least the rest sprocket, and maybe the front.

Bill Hilly · 03-17-2021, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Hilly

Thanks tknj99.. I will put my old chain back on, and order at least the rest sprocket, and maybe the front.

I am definitely going to order the rear 42 tooth, but maybe not the front until I ask you a question. Did you find the 42 rear, and 17 front just too high? ,And you went to a 16 front to get some lost power back ?, Or was it a specific combination you wanted ? I hate to gear my bike up too much,but if it will handle a 46r / 17f. ,Then I may try it. It would possibly make the middle gears more useful to me.

tknj99 · 03-17-2021, 05:40 PM

When i modded the bike and gained power from the exhaust it was a nice jump in power.. and then when i changed to a 42Tooth Rear (mated with 17Front) i lost that power and probably a little more while gaining a few mph (4-5 mph) in top speed.. as i did more mods, porting, air pod, carb most of that lost power came back, but not all.. so when i swapped the front to 16T, bam it was back and im happy as it is.. its not a highway cruiser so its not worth losing that low end pull to gain a few mph in top end speed in my opinion.

A 16T/42R comes out to about the same as a 17T/44.5R so it still adds maybe 2mph in top end compared with stock.

Bill Hilly · 03-17-2021, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tknj99

When i modded the bike and gained power from the exhaust it was a nice jump in power.. and then when i changed to a 42Tooth Rear (mated with 17Front) i lost that power and probably a little more while gaining a few mph (4-5 mph) in top speed.. as i did more mods, porting, air pod, carb most of that lost power came back, but not all.. so when i swapped the front to 16T, bam it was back and im happy as it is.. its not a highway cruiser so its not worth losing that low end pull to gain a few mph in top end speed in my opinion.

A 16T/42R comes out to about the same as a 17T/44.5R so it still adds maybe 2mph in top end compared with stock.

I would hate to gear mine up too much, so I wonder if I would be better to buy a high quality master link, and put a couple links back in my new chain, and keep the sprockets that are on it. Does it hurt to run 2 master links just two links apart?

gwowzer · 03-17-2021, 10:16 PM

Probably not the greatest idea.. but it should work... I the type that hates to add too many cogs to the machine. I bought a Niche 128 link oring chain and it fit just fine on my bike, with plenty of room for adjustment..
Maybe double check your install? I feel something is just not right about it fitting on the stock setup.

gwowzer · 03-17-2021, 10:19 PM

Like maybe you missed a tooth gap or something.. ended up short.

DohcBikes · 03-17-2021, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Hilly

I would hate to gear mine up too much, so I wonder if I would be better to buy a high quality master link, and put a couple links back in my new chain, and keep the sprockets that are on it. Does it hurt to run 2 master links just two links apart?

I was thinking about this today and how I could show test results.

The biggest risk associated with running 2 master links would be doubling the possibility of installing one incorrectly. Take it seriously and you'll be fine. If both are installed correctly there is no danger. I have done it a few times on bikes with a LOT more power. A lot.

Bill Hilly · 03-17-2021, 10:45 PM

I am pretty sure I cut my chain wrong . I took 4 complete links out counting the dog bone shaped roller assemblies as one link. I should have read up a little, because I realize that each plate is considered a link. I may just have to buy a real high quality master link for this type chain. How does a person mess on installing a master link.? Should I buy one of the rivet type ?

DohcBikes · 03-17-2021, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Hilly

How does a person mess on installing a master link.?

How does a person mess on cutting a chain short?

Everything sounds easy when it's words.

Bill Hilly · 03-17-2021, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DohcBikes

How does a person mess on cutting a chain short?

Everything sounds easy when it's words.

Yes that's true, but I guess what I'm asking is is there a common mistake that people make installing a master link ? I put my old chain back on the bike, and put the clip back on exactly the same .The open end of the clip was towards the front of the bike ,with the master link on the low side of the chain.

03-17-2021, 02:55 PM	#1
Bill Hilly Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 948	Can't get a 128 link chain on my Brozz. I bought a 132 link Niche gold chain for my Brozz with the understanding that I should cut it down to 128 links, which I did, and now I'm coming up top short. I have my axle slid forward all the way. The stock chain had about 130 links. Has anyone put a 128 link chain on a stock 2020 Brozz 250?
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03-17-2021, 03:01 PM	#2
tknj99 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Central VA Posts: 1,259	I did.. i bought it as 128 link.. but i also bought a 42T rear at the same time and had to take 1 link out __________________ 2024 Zuma Storm 150 DLX 2019 Beta 430 RRS 2018 VStrom 1000 XT Former China Bikes: Tao DBX1, Brozz 250, CSC RX4, Titan DLX, Templar X
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03-17-2021, 04:27 PM	#4
tknj99 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Central VA Posts: 1,259	https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 __________________ 2024 Zuma Storm 150 DLX 2019 Beta 430 RRS 2018 VStrom 1000 XT Former China Bikes: Tao DBX1, Brozz 250, CSC RX4, Titan DLX, Templar X
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03-17-2021, 04:27 PM	#5
tknj99 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Central VA Posts: 1,259	And in case you want to end up exactly where i am now: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 __________________ 2024 Zuma Storm 150 DLX 2019 Beta 430 RRS 2018 VStrom 1000 XT Former China Bikes: Tao DBX1, Brozz 250, CSC RX4, Titan DLX, Templar X
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03-17-2021, 05:40 PM	#8
tknj99 Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Central VA Posts: 1,259	When i modded the bike and gained power from the exhaust it was a nice jump in power.. and then when i changed to a 42Tooth Rear (mated with 17Front) i lost that power and probably a little more while gaining a few mph (4-5 mph) in top speed.. as i did more mods, porting, air pod, carb most of that lost power came back, but not all.. so when i swapped the front to 16T, bam it was back and im happy as it is.. its not a highway cruiser so its not worth losing that low end pull to gain a few mph in top end speed in my opinion. A 16T/42R comes out to about the same as a 17T/44.5R so it still adds maybe 2mph in top end compared with stock. __________________ 2024 Zuma Storm 150 DLX 2019 Beta 430 RRS 2018 VStrom 1000 XT Former China Bikes: Tao DBX1, Brozz 250, CSC RX4, Titan DLX, Templar X
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03-17-2021, 04:34 PM	#6
Bill Hilly Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 948	Thanks tknj99.. I will put my old chain back on, and order at least the rest sprocket, and maybe the front.
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03-17-2021, 10:16 PM	#10
gwowzer Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 297	Probably not the greatest idea.. but it should work... I the type that hates to add too many cogs to the machine. I bought a Niche 128 link oring chain and it fit just fine on my bike, with plenty of room for adjustment.. Maybe double check your install? I feel something is just not right about it fitting on the stock setup.
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03-17-2021, 10:19 PM	#11
gwowzer Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 297	Like maybe you missed a tooth gap or something.. ended up short.
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03-17-2021, 10:45 PM	#13
Bill Hilly Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 948	I am pretty sure I cut my chain wrong . I took 4 complete links out counting the dog bone shaped roller assemblies as one link. I should have read up a little, because I realize that each plate is considered a link. I may just have to buy a real high quality master link for this type chain. How does a person mess on installing a master link.? Should I buy one of the rivet type ?
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