Is This Really a 200 cc?

olds_cool63 · 11-23-2020, 10:33 PM

Hey, y'all.

I'm still in my search for my next set of 2 wheels and came across this:

https://extreme-scooters.com/shop/di...0cc-mc-enduro/

Does anyone have any info on this? Built well? Is it really a 200 cc? I can't seem to find any real info...even on Roketa's website.

Would make a great bike to mod out!

Thanks!

XLsior · 11-23-2020, 10:38 PM

Looks like a CG200 engine with a balance shaft. That's my 2cents.

olds_cool63 · 11-23-2020, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by XLsior

Looks like a CG200 engine with a balance shaft. That's my 2cents.

Groovy! Yeah...I'm trying to find the exact cc's of the engine...probably a 196. It claims to put out 250 cc hp (14.2)...hmmm...

I'm trying to do some research.

XLsior · 11-24-2020, 12:15 AM

It's either a cg200 or cg250 with a balance shaft. Hard to say just by going of the photo dimensions. The rocker cover looks to be a pushrod OHV.

If they suggest 14hp and 250cc its more than likely a CG250 nominal with and actual 229cc capacity.

Wild Dog · 11-24-2020, 12:57 AM

It’s a cg200 196cc and the Hp is correct about 13,8 hp at 8000 rpm, while the 250 (229cc) make about 15 hp at 7000 rpm

Essayons · 11-24-2020, 02:10 AM

They list Bore*stroke as 63.5mm*62.5mm. I used an engine displacement calculator and it came up with a displacement of 197.93cc

ChillRider · 11-24-2020, 03:58 AM

Looks like the BS200GY-9

franque · 11-24-2020, 04:54 AM

I'm not sure that's still available. Looking closer at the site, it appears that it hasn't been updated since 2018. I'd at least call them and make sure, before making a payment that's difficult to reverse. For my money, if you're looking to spend around that much, I'd look at a Hawk or a TBR7.

culcune · 11-24-2020, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChillRider

Looks like the BS200GY-9

This thread brings up the long, sad tale of AZhules dealing with the 'Manny' owned companies out of Texas, including TXPowersports (why we generally steer people away from them).

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Originally Posted by olds_cool63

Hey, y'all.

I'm still in my search for my next set of 2 wheels and came across this:

These older Bashans were brought back by Peace Motorsports in the form of the Bashan Motomax 250 late last year and earlier this year--a motard-style bike, that had the counter-balanced Bashan engine. The new ones even had the 'Will' stickers like these older 200cc ones sold via Roketa. As the thread showed, this was the long, sad tale of AZhule's dealing with 'Manny'. But, in the end, he sorted out the bike and did end up with a bike that tops out over 80 mph on some of the downhill highways in Colorado (GPS verified).

And he did have the 200cc version...

wheelbender6 · 11-24-2020, 05:01 PM

I have heard of displacement deception with some of the Taiwanese 200 scooters, but not with Chinese dual sports.
The current Kymco HD200 is only 171cc or so. Same with SYM and Lance scoots.

TxTaoRider · 11-24-2020, 05:11 PM

Eh, the displacement deception is everywhere...I've got a ktm 525 that's actually 510... Or it was...it's much bigger than that now. Lol

culcune · 11-24-2020, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelbender6

I have heard of displacement deception with some of the Taiwanese 200 scooters, but not with Chinese dual sports.
The current Kymco HD200 is only 171cc or so. Same with SYM and Lance scoots.

Most every '250' is a 223 or 229. The few '200' Chinese scooters have displacement in the same ranges as the Kymco. Most notable is the Jass trike. Also, the quads that use the GY6 engines claim '200' and are really. 16x cc or 17x cc. Fake News permeates all nationalities of bikes

olds_cool63 · 11-24-2020, 07:32 PM

Appreciate the responses.

Yeah..my Bandit 1200 is actually 1157 cc! Although there is a stroker kit that will take it up to 1203 cc (with a HUGE bump in HP/torque).

I'm probably gonna wait a couple of months before buying something...just trying to see what's out there.

Yeah..the TBR7 is on the shortlist.

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olds_cool63 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Maricopa, AZ Posts: 159	Is This Really a 200 cc? Hey, y'all. I'm still in my search for my next set of 2 wheels and came across this: https://extreme-scooters.com/shop/di...0cc-mc-enduro/ Does anyone have any info on this? Built well? Is it really a 200 cc? I can't seem to find any real info...even on Roketa's website. Would make a great bike to mod out! Thanks! __________________ Nuff said. olds_cool63 ======= Johnny Pag Pagsta (replaced 50cc engine with 110cc, modded-out) 2007 Tank Vision Topline Khaos (cosmetic mods, cherry-bombs) 2005 Kymco Vitality 50 2T (70cc big bore kit, other race mods...tops out at 67mph) 2008 Hyosung GT250 (cosmetic mods) 2001 Suzuki Bandit GFS1200S (cosmetic and slight mods...150mph+)
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wheelbender6 Join Date: May 2015 Location: Houston area Posts: 1,902	I have heard of displacement deception with some of the Taiwanese 200 scooters, but not with Chinese dual sports. The current Kymco HD200 is only 171cc or so. Same with SYM and Lance scoots. __________________ "Its not WHAT you ride; its THAT you ride"
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11-24-2020, 07:32 PM	#13
olds_cool63 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Maricopa, AZ Posts: 159	Appreciate the responses. Yeah..my Bandit 1200 is actually 1157 cc! Although there is a stroker kit that will take it up to 1203 cc (with a HUGE bump in HP/torque). I'm probably gonna wait a couple of months before buying something...just trying to see what's out there. Yeah..the TBR7 is on the shortlist. __________________ Nuff said. olds_cool63 ======= Johnny Pag Pagsta (replaced 50cc engine with 110cc, modded-out) 2007 Tank Vision Topline Khaos (cosmetic mods, cherry-bombs) 2005 Kymco Vitality 50 2T (70cc big bore kit, other race mods...tops out at 67mph) 2008 Hyosung GT250 (cosmetic mods) 2001 Suzuki Bandit GFS1200S (cosmetic and slight mods...150mph+)
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11-23-2020, 10:38 PM	#2
XLsior Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Australia Posts: 1,318	Looks like a CG200 engine with a balance shaft. That's my 2cents.
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11-24-2020, 12:15 AM	#4
XLsior Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Australia Posts: 1,318	It's either a cg200 or cg250 with a balance shaft. Hard to say just by going of the photo dimensions. The rocker cover looks to be a pushrod OHV. If they suggest 14hp and 250cc its more than likely a CG250 nominal with and actual 229cc capacity.
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11-24-2020, 12:57 AM	#5
Wild Dog Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Argentina Posts: 756	It’s a cg200 196cc and the Hp is correct about 13,8 hp at 8000 rpm, while the 250 (229cc) make about 15 hp at 7000 rpm
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11-24-2020, 03:58 AM	#7
ChillRider Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: A small country with a funny name Posts: 164	Looks like the BS200GY-9
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11-24-2020, 04:54 AM	#8
franque Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea Posts: 1,481	I'm not sure that's still available. Looking closer at the site, it appears that it hasn't been updated since 2018. I'd at least call them and make sure, before making a payment that's difficult to reverse. For my money, if you're looking to spend around that much, I'd look at a Hawk or a TBR7.
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