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Old 02-11-2020, 07:10 PM   #1
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Brozz broke down off road Stranded now!

I messaging this live in field broke down . All was well found a huge off-road lot . All was well. Loving it. Dirt hills , small trails . Then going down a small dip bike dies. Will not start. Cranks over but no joy. Only tools are my phone and the stock tool kit. Removed the plug . No spark! Looked at the coils and wires all look good. Out by myself. Oh and it’s dark now.
Not loving my Brozz right now.

I pushed her out to the main road and now waiting for help.
Just me and the mosquitoes .

I hoping it the plug. I purchased a new one but hadn’t installed it yet.
Waiting on my the other half to bring my truck, Ramp and the new plug.

Anything else I can do until help arrives.


 
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Old 02-11-2020, 08:17 PM   #2
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On occasion, it ends up being the CDI. Not as easy fix as plug, but very low cost. Consider that IF plug does not fix it.
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Old 02-11-2020, 09:06 PM   #3
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Finally home .
Plug isn’t the problem. Bike is dead. No spark. How do I test the CDI? Bike is still under warranty.


 
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Old 02-11-2020, 09:33 PM   #4
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Finally home .
Plug isn’t the problem. Bike is dead. No spark. How do I test the CDI? Bike is still under warranty.
For me, long story short--I had a 2009 TMEC 200 'Enduro'. I bought it used and ran it into the ground, and a couple times was stranded due to a fouled plug. I learned to carry one in the motorcycle case I attached to the rack. I ended up buying a brand new 2013 TMEC to replace it. Several hundred miles in, it died on me just outside my work. It seemed to be a plug, once again. Pulled the plug, it did not look fouled, but threw in the new one. No go. I ended up catching a ride with a coworker, and someone just coincidentally was discussing his bike (another brand, Skyteam dual-sport) having issues. His issues had occurred a few days earlier, and when I got home, it was the CDI. So, a light bulb went off in my head. Drove down to work, changed the CDI to the one in the 2009, and the bike started right up! I didn't have a ride home, so asked my co-worker for a ride the next day, and all was good. I had the convenience of having a spare is the 'short' story.

More recently this past November, there was a group ride. One of the riders kept having starting issues which seemed to be his carb. He had difficulties starting his at every stop. Finally, after we had our last stop at a hamburger stand, he took off and went home after having one last difficult time starting his bike. I had suggested CDI a few times, and sure enough, that was his fix, too. Near new Taotao TBR7. He ordered a new CDI off of Amazon or Ebay.

In your case, start with Peace. I have faith in Jeff and his customer service. Maybe he can express a CDI your way?
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Old 02-11-2020, 09:43 PM   #5
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Did you check the kill switch? May of hit it by accident? It does happen. Ask me how I know. Lol
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Old 02-11-2020, 10:12 PM   #6
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Did you check the kill switch? May of hit it by accident? It does happen. Ask me how I know. Lol
I totally resemble that comment!!!
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Old 02-11-2020, 10:52 PM   #7
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Sorry to hear this, hopefully it's just the plug. The NGK makes a big difference anyway.
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Old 02-11-2020, 11:57 PM   #8
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The Brozz doesn’t have a kill switch. Strange I know. I started taking the bike apart after reading the alarm could be the issue. Once the seat was off I disconnected the alarm siren and checked that every connection was good. I grabbed the remote and cycled the alarm on and off. Then checked the plug and hit the remote starter. Spark!! I didn’t carry the remote with me while riding so I didn’t cause it . I was in a very large area not sure if something tripped it. I secured the alarm so it wasn’t bouncing around under the seat and buttoned her up. One hit of the starter and she started right up.

Perhaps she was pissed I didn’t install the new shifter I received today’. I did install it before proceeding with my trouble shooting.


 
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Old 02-12-2020, 12:09 AM   #9
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Thanks for everyones feedback.
Does anyone have a link for a replacement CDI? I wouldn’t mind having a spare. Just in case.


 
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Old 02-12-2020, 03:32 AM   #10
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If the Hawk uses the same type CDI as the Lifan you can unplug the kill wire from the CDI and bypass all switches and potential shorted wires that would keep it from sparking.



 
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Old 02-12-2020, 06:11 AM   #11
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Spins.....glad you got it sorted. Happy riding from here on out....!
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Old 02-12-2020, 07:28 AM   #12
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Thanks for everyones feedback.
Does anyone have a link for a replacement CDI? I wouldn’t mind having a spare. Just in case.
If you look at it, you should be able to find the same type on ebay or amazon. It has to do with the connector. There are two kinds if I recall. They are very generic.
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:22 PM   #13
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Head light

I took my bike out for a short ride tonight. All appeared normal and she idles fine once I remember to turn the fuel on.

So my little adventure let me see how weak the headlight really is.

I posted a pic. Will this light work for my Brozz?
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Old 02-12-2020, 10:30 PM   #14
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If the Hawk uses the same type CDI as the Lifan you can unplug the kill wire from the CDI and bypass all switches and potential shorted wires that would keep it from sparking.

Thanks for the diagram.


 
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Old 02-12-2020, 11:18 PM   #15
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If the Hawk uses the same type CDI as the Lifan you can unplug the kill wire from the CDI and bypass all switches and potential shorted wires that would keep it from sparking.

DC systems are the same
Instead of AC from stator it’s DC from battery
Some might just earth the blue/white wire for kill switch or use the kill switch location that’s just often another coil contact internally


 
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