Zongshen Sierra ZS200GY-2 help!!!

Tylor_is_Here · 12-18-2019, 10:25 AM

Hello All,

I’ve recently come to own the frame and wheels of an 06 Zongshen Sierra. While she still needs work, I’m having a tough time finding a motor for her in the United States! Can someone help me, please? Any information on the motor, similar useable engines, anything! Thank you!

-Tylor

**JerryHawk250** · 12-18-2019, 10:50 AM

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Tylor_is_Here · 12-18-2019, 11:17 AM

JerryHawk250 this will fit the frame of the bike? That’s my concern is that I’ll get the same size motor and it doesn’t fit.

**JerryHawk250** · 12-18-2019, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tylor_is_Here

JerryHawk250 this will fit the frame of the bike? That’s my concern is that I’ll get the same size motor and it doesn’t fit.

We have a member that did the Lifan 200 swap a while back. If I remember he had to modify the front engine mount a little to make it work. I'll try to find the thread and post a link.
The Brozz counterbalance engine will probably need a custom made front mount to make work. If you have some fabrication skills that would be the one I would go with.

Tylor_is_Here · 12-18-2019, 12:03 PM

If you find that thread do let me know! I wouldn’t mind getting a readily available motor.

franque · 12-18-2019, 12:45 PM

Either that, or you can swap in a Yamaha xt225 motor. The TW200 would fit, but the countershaft is a bit long.

**JerryHawk250** · 12-18-2019, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tylor_is_Here

If you find that thread do let me know! I wouldn’t mind getting a readily available motor.

I did locate the thread but no point in posting it. All the pictures were deleted and no real write up to explain on what was done.

Weldangrind · 12-18-2019, 01:31 PM

Welcome, Tylor! X2 on the XT225 motor. It has more displacement, an OHC, more power and six gears. Total win.

Tylor_is_Here · 12-18-2019, 02:55 PM

Weldangrind, I’ll look into it. I’m all for doing a little fab work if it doesn’t fit!

NzBrakelathes · 12-18-2019, 06:05 PM

It is a TW200 copy engine 100% ( double check ouitput shaft isn't miles out and the ZS doesn't have a decomp lever
I had this bike me self and sold it recently

Tylor_is_Here · 12-18-2019, 11:01 PM

Okay, so in the knowledge of everyone present, would you say the Lifan is a worthy resemblance of the motor? I found some possible Zongshen 167FML series motors on this Alibaba website, but I don’t trust it. I’d rather stick to EBay where in the States I know I’ll be okay if it’s a scam. Lifan seems to be the popular eBay ticket. Is it worth it?

Tylor_is_Here · 12-18-2019, 11:20 PM

And also, does anyone have a link to where I can purchase cosmetic parts for the bike? Like the rear light housing, fairings, hamdguards, etc.?

Thank you all so much for your help!

culcune · 12-19-2019, 12:12 AM

These used literal clones of the Yamaha TW200 engine as others mentioned, if you can find one for a reasonable price. I think Chinese Hondoid (nicknamed that because they are not really identical to any real Honda engines, but are similar) are good alternatives; very reliable!

Lifan or Zongshen will do the trick. Personally, I would go with a Lifan engine, but that is personal opinion, and not based on anything--in the end, either one will do the trick.

Weldangrind · 12-19-2019, 12:38 PM

Like Franque said, the TW200 countershaft is too long, so it's not a candidate. The XT225 or the TT-R230 is a good fit. You could also pop in a Yamaha Exciter 185 engine, although that's a five speed and has less power.

Bottom line is that the Sierra was designed for a Yamaha engine, not a Honda engine. Yes, you can fit a Lifan Honda clone engine in the space with some welding and grinding, but it's not a bolt-in deal. The original engine in your Sierra was a Zongshen ZS200GY-2, which is a near-perfect Yamaha clone. There is a ton of good info here: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6051

david3921 · 12-19-2019, 04:55 PM

Spud would have chimed in here but we haven't heard from him in awhile.

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Tylor_is_Here Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 11	Zongshen Sierra ZS200GY-2 help!!! Hello All, I’ve recently come to own the frame and wheels of an 06 Zongshen Sierra. While she still needs work, I’m having a tough time finding a motor for her in the United States! Can someone help me, please? Any information on the motor, similar useable engines, anything! Thank you! -Tylor
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12-18-2019, 10:50 AM	#2
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Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Welcome, Tylor! X2 on the XT225 motor. It has more displacement, an OHC, more power and six gears. Total win. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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12-19-2019, 12:12 AM	#13
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,056	These used literal clones of the Yamaha TW200 engine as others mentioned, if you can find one for a reasonable price. I think Chinese Hondoid (nicknamed that because they are not really identical to any real Honda engines, but are similar) are good alternatives; very reliable! Lifan or Zongshen will do the trick. Personally, I would go with a Lifan engine, but that is personal opinion, and not based on anything--in the end, either one will do the trick. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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12-19-2019, 12:38 PM	#14
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Like Franque said, the TW200 countershaft is too long, so it's not a candidate. The XT225 or the TT-R230 is a good fit. You could also pop in a Yamaha Exciter 185 engine, although that's a five speed and has less power. Bottom line is that the Sierra was designed for a Yamaha engine, not a Honda engine. Yes, you can fit a Lifan Honda clone engine in the space with some welding and grinding, but it's not a bolt-in deal. The original engine in your Sierra was a Zongshen ZS200GY-2, which is a near-perfect Yamaha clone. There is a ton of good info here: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6051 __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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12-18-2019, 11:17 AM	#3
Tylor_is_Here Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 11	JerryHawk250 this will fit the frame of the bike? That’s my concern is that I’ll get the same size motor and it doesn’t fit.
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12-18-2019, 12:03 PM	#5
Tylor_is_Here Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 11	If you find that thread do let me know! I wouldn’t mind getting a readily available motor.
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12-18-2019, 12:45 PM	#6
franque Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea Posts: 1,481	Either that, or you can swap in a Yamaha xt225 motor. The TW200 would fit, but the countershaft is a bit long.
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12-18-2019, 02:55 PM	#9
Tylor_is_Here Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 11	Weldangrind, I’ll look into it. I’m all for doing a little fab work if it doesn’t fit!
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12-18-2019, 06:05 PM	#10
NzBrakelathes Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Hell Posts: 2,408	It is a TW200 copy engine 100% ( double check ouitput shaft isn't miles out and the ZS doesn't have a decomp lever I had this bike me self and sold it recently
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12-18-2019, 11:01 PM	#11
Tylor_is_Here Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 11	Okay, so in the knowledge of everyone present, would you say the Lifan is a worthy resemblance of the motor? I found some possible Zongshen 167FML series motors on this Alibaba website, but I don’t trust it. I’d rather stick to EBay where in the States I know I’ll be okay if it’s a scam. Lifan seems to be the popular eBay ticket. Is it worth it?
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12-18-2019, 11:20 PM	#12
Tylor_is_Here Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 11	And also, does anyone have a link to where I can purchase cosmetic parts for the bike? Like the rear light housing, fairings, hamdguards, etc.? Thank you all so much for your help!
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12-19-2019, 04:55 PM	#15
david3921 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,043	Spud would have chimed in here but we haven't heard from him in awhile. __________________ 2012 Kawasaki Versys 1984 Honda Magna V65 2016 Rhino 250 2016 Tao Tao 125D
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