Is It Easy To Kick Start A China Bike?

mybike · 07-07-2019, 08:45 PM

Said it before and I will say it again, I love this cheap bike. I even love kick starting it.

Cold Start Only One Kick / Stock Carburetor Pz30.

Pilot drilled .45 / Main jet drilled 115 / Three washers on the needle and fuel screw below out about 1.4 Holds steady idle at 1400 and runs beyond perfect. Mods are pipe and pod filter. Jetting (set up) is for summer time. No choke needed down to 60 degrees with this set up. Colder temperatures maybe open up the fuel screw below to 2 turns out and leave jets alone, will see.. Hate changing jets on the Magician, must take off the tank and side panels.

Carb responds quick with all throttle inputs no matter how fast you snap the grip. No flat spots or hesitations anywhere and pulls very strong.

Frag2 · 07-08-2019, 07:54 AM

Nice beats hell out of mine . congrats

**JerryHawk250** · 07-08-2019, 08:31 AM

Mine is the same way. It's amazing what a well tuned carb will do. Thanks for showing the proper way to kick start a bike. Rotate it until you're on the compression stroke.

BTW Like the 69 442. My brother had one the same color.

Sport Rider · 07-08-2019, 11:28 AM

my battery died and I kick started it for several months before investing in a new one. with proper carb setup, it's not that difficult. usually 2 or 3 kicks and she fired up.

NzBrakelathes · 07-08-2019, 11:54 AM

I’m not too surprised that the stock carb well tuned works perfectly fine etc
The stories of Mikuni clones or stock carbs being no good is often said without knowledge and people didn’t tune the original.
I said long ago drilling jets was common back in the day, I offered a kit with more jets n a drill for the Shen Wey carb to 0.45mm etc which would give people your idea with a little less drama of finding other drills n more flexible having more main jets n adjustable needle.
My kit now is far superior as it’s got the correct pilot jet for Shen Wey main jets and optional extra mains n pilots - probably easier for most guys to manage easier maybe even a little cheaper or similar price but still the parts to achieve the results you have as well.
You did a fine job in the way you did it, hats off to your skills.
Others might rather also look into my kit if they’re a little less skilled or less tools etc and would rather have it a bit easier but both options or ways can work perfectly well, if you have some skills

OneLeggedRider · 07-08-2019, 12:49 PM

Sweet! I've had a few bikes that always started first kick, like my '85 ATC 200X. Even my Scrambler 400 starts amazingly well with the UFO carb. I turn the choke on and pull it over slowly one turn (the electric starter teeth were shaved off the flywheel for weight reduction), then I turn the choke off and give it one good pull. Fires right up even if it's been setting a couple months or if it's 14° outside (it's basically a 2 stroke snow mobile engine).

wedooit · 07-09-2019, 12:30 AM

Thanks, and very nice 442!!!!!

2LZ · 07-10-2019, 01:31 PM

I wish this was as easy. I now have a permanent limp.....and yes! Killer 442!!

GronkFries · 07-10-2019, 01:50 PM

That's a pretty sweet looking bike, I think having to take the tank off to work on the carb is a fair trade. Four barrel, four speed, dual exhaust lol!

07-07-2019, 08:45 PM	#1
mybike Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 59	Is It Easy To Kick Start A China Bike? Said it before and I will say it again, I love this cheap bike. I even love kick starting it. Cold Start Only One Kick / Stock Carburetor Pz30. Pilot drilled .45 / Main jet drilled 115 / Three washers on the needle and fuel screw below out about 1.4 Holds steady idle at 1400 and runs beyond perfect. Mods are pipe and pod filter. Jetting (set up) is for summer time. No choke needed down to 60 degrees with this set up. Colder temperatures maybe open up the fuel screw below to 2 turns out and leave jets alone, will see.. Hate changing jets on the Magician, must take off the tank and side panels. Carb responds quick with all throttle inputs no matter how fast you snap the grip. No flat spots or hesitations anywhere and pulls very strong.
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07-08-2019, 08:31 AM	#3
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,585	Mine is the same way. It's amazing what a well tuned carb will do. Thanks for showing the proper way to kick start a bike. Rotate it until you're on the compression stroke. BTW Like the 69 442. My brother had one the same color. __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel Last edited by JerryHawk250; 07-08-2019 at 11:30 AM.
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07-09-2019, 12:30 AM	#7
wedooit Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Posts: 794	Thanks, and very nice 442!!!!! __________________ A family that works together, plays together, shoots and trains together, and sleds together, stays together. Second amendment! SkiDoo sleds, NOW 2 TTR225, and a BMS250. A couple of quotes (we are not farmers) "I don't get off the farm much" "Am too old school" I call the china bikes "the china syndrome".
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07-08-2019, 07:54 AM	#2
Frag2 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Jefferson city Tenn Posts: 27	Nice beats hell out of mine . congrats
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07-08-2019, 11:28 AM	#4
Sport Rider Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Mooresville NC Posts: 2,050	my battery died and I kick started it for several months before investing in a new one. with proper carb setup, it's not that difficult. usually 2 or 3 kicks and she fired up.
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07-08-2019, 11:54 AM	#5
NzBrakelathes Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Hell Posts: 2,408	I’m not too surprised that the stock carb well tuned works perfectly fine etc The stories of Mikuni clones or stock carbs being no good is often said without knowledge and people didn’t tune the original. I said long ago drilling jets was common back in the day, I offered a kit with more jets n a drill for the Shen Wey carb to 0.45mm etc which would give people your idea with a little less drama of finding other drills n more flexible having more main jets n adjustable needle. My kit now is far superior as it’s got the correct pilot jet for Shen Wey main jets and optional extra mains n pilots - probably easier for most guys to manage easier maybe even a little cheaper or similar price but still the parts to achieve the results you have as well. You did a fine job in the way you did it, hats off to your skills. Others might rather also look into my kit if they’re a little less skilled or less tools etc and would rather have it a bit easier but both options or ways can work perfectly well, if you have some skills
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07-08-2019, 12:49 PM	#6
OneLeggedRider Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Stockport, Oh. Posts: 1,442	Sweet! I've had a few bikes that always started first kick, like my '85 ATC 200X. Even my Scrambler 400 starts amazingly well with the UFO carb. I turn the choke on and pull it over slowly one turn (the electric starter teeth were shaved off the flywheel for weight reduction), then I turn the choke off and give it one good pull. Fires right up even if it's been setting a couple months or if it's 14° outside (it's basically a 2 stroke snow mobile engine).
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07-10-2019, 01:50 PM	#9
GronkFries Join Date: May 2019 Location: Maine Posts: 111	That's a pretty sweet looking bike, I think having to take the tank off to work on the carb is a fair trade. Four barrel, four speed, dual exhaust lol!
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