Hellcat is falling apart. SMH. Need some help.

scoot newb · 04-18-2019, 02:36 PM

My word. It just keeps getting worse. How is this happening? I weight under 220lbs, I DONT:
Drive off road, do wheelies or burnouts. It has less than 500km on it. I drive to and from work (5 miles), to the grocery store (6 miles) and sometimes take a 80km ride on the weekends.

Unless I am missing something, the bracket that holds on that electronic gadget has snapped off the frame.

Any ideas on a safe way to re-attach?

I'm thinking of zip ties to get it away from the shock until I can find a more permanent solution. :-(

Ironically the engine mount bolts and exhaust bolts have been fine.

UPDATE

Well, it's zip-tied away from the shock. Perhaps I will use GROM bolts and drill out the monts a bit to try and stop the vibration.

RedCrowRides · 04-18-2019, 06:29 PM

There is nothing there on my Vader ,there "used to be " some brackets there but i Dremel'd them off, what is that anyways? It looks like maybe your CDI box but it's hard to tell ,anyways if you feel like vibration caused it to come off, as long as they are good , strong zip ties you might want to just stay with those, they aren't subject to vibration issues ,if you put bolts back in it, grab a couple rubber washers from the parts house and that should take care of it, i put rubber washers on every single one of my plastics / fairings screws to keep the plastics from stress fracturing from the vibrations, so far havent cracked any plastics. Well, not from vibration anyways lol.

Whisky · 04-18-2019, 08:21 PM

It's the rectifier it is bolted on the frame under the gas tank. Mine is zip tied to, I had to move it due to the bigger gas tank. Not a huuge deal. I wouldn't worry about it but make sure you loctite anything you don't want coming off.

scoot newb · 04-18-2019, 08:48 PM

Well, the bolts stayed in. The bracket that was welded onto the frame broke off. I guess it's not a big deal but if the mount snapped off the frame from vibration or whatever, who knows what else will snap off.

kirbo7106 · 04-19-2019, 09:38 AM

That’s not good! I was really hoping the Hellcat was a quality bike.

Mind you, this comes from a guy who’s Hellcat didn’t survive delivery!

The Lifan KP Mini is looking better and better!

scoot newb · 04-19-2019, 03:48 PM

Yeah or the Pitster Pro 190.

Whisky · 04-19-2019, 04:10 PM

Unfortunately with these bikes the Chinese think 1 or 2 tiny spot welds are sufficient, I would kinda look around at other welds on the bike. No one likes surprises of this type.

scoot newb · 04-19-2019, 04:15 PM

Fam, I am just going to get an older 2 stroke MX-er. Throw on some mirrors, lights, indicators, the plate from the Hellcat and ride it. Even if someone notices, who is going to catch you on a... say RM or CR 250?

Braaap off the side of the road over the medium strip and down a trail. Bye Felicia.

scoot newb · 04-22-2019, 12:38 AM

Well, okay back to reality. The 2 stroke MX-er idea sounded good after a couple drinks but I think what is going to happen is... Buy the 190 clone from Pitster Pro, pay the extra $300 to have it delivered assembled. That should make it easy to check for any damage right away. Change the oil, connect the battery and brap. If that one turns out to be garbage I think I'll give up on these type of bikes and go with something from the big 4.

kirbo7106 · 04-22-2019, 07:47 AM

I hear what you are saying! When I got my Hawk 250, it was the same thing. I kept running into problems. At 31 miles, the rear hub assembly came apart. I was in a turn at the time. Even though it was under warranty, txpowersports did nothing to help me!

After that, I had an inner tube blowout! So I changed the tires and tubes. Now my Hawk is pretty solid. I still have some mods I want to do. Once I get my money back from my Hellcat, I will get back to modding my Hawk.

Once I finish my Hawk, I might revisit getting a Grom Like Vehicle!

Good luck and keep us posted!

benhonda · 07-01-2019, 09:27 PM

i just got a used hellcat with almost 800 miles on the clock, and the same thing (rectifier) mounting tab broke loose letting the rectifier dangle by the wire. Since mine didn't have the front body panels, there was a mounting hole nearby that I could put a bolt through...though the rectifier now blocks the oil dipstick from coming all the way out now.

scoot newb · 07-01-2019, 09:29 PM

I am about to move mine to the side by the seat. I now have a low exhaust and no need to those top mounts.

04-18-2019, 02:36 PM	#1
scoot newb Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 403	Hellcat is falling apart. SMH. Need some help. My word. It just keeps getting worse. How is this happening? I weight under 220lbs, I DONT: Drive off road, do wheelies or burnouts. It has less than 500km on it. I drive to and from work (5 miles), to the grocery store (6 miles) and sometimes take a 80km ride on the weekends. Unless I am missing something, the bracket that holds on that electronic gadget has snapped off the frame. Any ideas on a safe way to re-attach? I'm thinking of zip ties to get it away from the shock until I can find a more permanent solution. :-( Ironically the engine mount bolts and exhaust bolts have been fine. UPDATE Well, it's zip-tied away from the shock. Perhaps I will use GROM bolts and drill out the monts a bit to try and stop the vibration. Last edited by scoot newb; 04-18-2019 at 04:28 PM.
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04-18-2019, 06:29 PM	#2
RedCrowRides Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 759	There is nothing there on my Vader ,there "used to be " some brackets there but i Dremel'd them off, what is that anyways? It looks like maybe your CDI box but it's hard to tell ,anyways if you feel like vibration caused it to come off, as long as they are good , strong zip ties you might want to just stay with those, they aren't subject to vibration issues ,if you put bolts back in it, grab a couple rubber washers from the parts house and that should take care of it, i put rubber washers on every single one of my plastics / fairings screws to keep the plastics from stress fracturing from the vibrations, so far havent cracked any plastics. Well, not from vibration anyways lol. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT 2004 Sportster 2018 VADER 2020 Orion RXB250L
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04-18-2019, 08:21 PM	#3
Whisky Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 286	It's the rectifier it is bolted on the frame under the gas tank. Mine is zip tied to, I had to move it due to the bigger gas tank. Not a huuge deal. I wouldn't worry about it but make sure you loctite anything you don't want coming off. __________________ 2018 BD125-8-x21rs ZS190/Genuine PE28 Kepspeed GP1 Exhaust Protaper se x110 bars/grips 1/4 MotionPro throttle Kepspeed Braced swingarm Chimera rear hub assy Grom Intergrated tail light Superlite Sprockets 17/32 custom made from Japan Chimera Swing Arm Bolt RK MXZ Chain #420 All Balls wheel bearings Motodynamic fender eliminator Coremoto ss brake lines Composimo 2.5 lower link Grom Calipers-w/ebc pads/rotors Michelin tire 140&120 13x4/13x7 fatties Grom forks
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04-19-2019, 09:38 AM	#5
kirbo7106 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Holiday, Florida Posts: 672	That’s not good! I was really hoping the Hellcat was a quality bike. Mind you, this comes from a guy who’s Hellcat didn’t survive delivery! The Lifan KP Mini is looking better and better! __________________ Dan-O -2018 Tao Tao HellCat - DOA -2016 Hawk 250 - Kitty Hawk - eBay exhaust, Mikuni carb(120 main/30 Pilot), airbox mod with K&N filter, digital cluster, total LEDs, 17/45 sprockets, RK chain, Shinko 244 tires, trunk, aftermarket levers, burrito tube, skid plate, Sargent Cycle Seat... -2003 HD Sportster 100th Anniversary -1999 Buell X-1 Lightning - Race kit, Buell Seat
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04-19-2019, 04:10 PM	#7
Whisky Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 286	Unfortunately with these bikes the Chinese think 1 or 2 tiny spot welds are sufficient, I would kinda look around at other welds on the bike. No one likes surprises of this type. __________________ 2018 BD125-8-x21rs ZS190/Genuine PE28 Kepspeed GP1 Exhaust Protaper se x110 bars/grips 1/4 MotionPro throttle Kepspeed Braced swingarm Chimera rear hub assy Grom Intergrated tail light Superlite Sprockets 17/32 custom made from Japan Chimera Swing Arm Bolt RK MXZ Chain #420 All Balls wheel bearings Motodynamic fender eliminator Coremoto ss brake lines Composimo 2.5 lower link Grom Calipers-w/ebc pads/rotors Michelin tire 140&120 13x4/13x7 fatties Grom forks
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04-18-2019, 08:48 PM	#4
scoot newb Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 403	Well, the bolts stayed in. The bracket that was welded onto the frame broke off. I guess it's not a big deal but if the mount snapped off the frame from vibration or whatever, who knows what else will snap off.
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04-19-2019, 03:48 PM	#6
scoot newb Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 403	Yeah or the Pitster Pro 190.
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04-19-2019, 04:15 PM	#8
scoot newb Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 403	Fam, I am just going to get an older 2 stroke MX-er. Throw on some mirrors, lights, indicators, the plate from the Hellcat and ride it. Even if someone notices, who is going to catch you on a... say RM or CR 250? Braaap off the side of the road over the medium strip and down a trail. Bye Felicia.
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04-22-2019, 12:38 AM	#9
scoot newb Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 403	Well, okay back to reality. The 2 stroke MX-er idea sounded good after a couple drinks but I think what is going to happen is... Buy the 190 clone from Pitster Pro, pay the extra $300 to have it delivered assembled. That should make it easy to check for any damage right away. Change the oil, connect the battery and brap. If that one turns out to be garbage I think I'll give up on these type of bikes and go with something from the big 4.
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04-22-2019, 07:47 AM	#10
kirbo7106 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Holiday, Florida Posts: 672	I hear what you are saying! When I got my Hawk 250, it was the same thing. I kept running into problems. At 31 miles, the rear hub assembly came apart. I was in a turn at the time. Even though it was under warranty, txpowersports did nothing to help me! After that, I had an inner tube blowout! So I changed the tires and tubes. Now my Hawk is pretty solid. I still have some mods I want to do. Once I get my money back from my Hellcat, I will get back to modding my Hawk. Once I finish my Hawk, I might revisit getting a Grom Like Vehicle! Good luck and keep us posted! __________________ Dan-O -2018 Tao Tao HellCat - DOA -2016 Hawk 250 - Kitty Hawk - eBay exhaust, Mikuni carb(120 main/30 Pilot), airbox mod with K&N filter, digital cluster, total LEDs, 17/45 sprockets, RK chain, Shinko 244 tires, trunk, aftermarket levers, burrito tube, skid plate, Sargent Cycle Seat... -2003 HD Sportster 100th Anniversary -1999 Buell X-1 Lightning - Race kit, Buell Seat
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07-01-2019, 09:27 PM	#11
benhonda Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 35	i just got a used hellcat with almost 800 miles on the clock, and the same thing (rectifier) mounting tab broke loose letting the rectifier dangle by the wire. Since mine didn't have the front body panels, there was a mounting hole nearby that I could put a bolt through...though the rectifier now blocks the oil dipstick from coming all the way out now.
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07-01-2019, 09:29 PM	#12
scoot newb Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 403	I am about to move mine to the side by the seat. I now have a low exhaust and no need to those top mounts.
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