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Old 02-18-2019, 08:36 AM   #1
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Is this the counter balanced engine?

Still weighing my options. Came across ASPC’s new website and they list the “new” Bashan. It has inverted front forks. I was wondering if it also has the counter balanced engine. My Enforcer from 2017 did not. Here is a picture from their website.
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Old 02-18-2019, 08:54 AM   #2
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No it does not have the counter balanced engine.
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Old 02-18-2019, 08:55 AM   #3
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Still weighing my options. Came across ASPC’s new website and they list the “new” Bashan. It has inverted front forks. I was wondering if it also has the counter balanced engine. My Enforcer from 2017 did not. Here is a picture from their website.
Do you have a link to their site because I haven't been able to find them as of late.


 
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:05 AM   #4
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“Special racer technology optimized crankshaft and piston “ ....really ? It’s a low tec stone ,nothing racer about it other than it is painted black .


 
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:16 AM   #5
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Do you have a link to their site because I haven't been able to find them as of late.
http://shopapmc.com/New-BMS-Bashan-2...ine-_p_15.html
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:40 AM   #6
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Which bikes have the counter balanced engine? And, does it make a difference?


 
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:43 AM   #7
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So what exactly are the specs of the BMS? Anything special about this one just a refresh?

I kind of stepped away for a little bit to focus more on college and now when I came back it seems like there are now hundreds of different models of the same thing.


 
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Which bikes have the counter balanced engine? And, does it make a difference?
The Bashan Brozz has the counter balanced engine. The newest models now have disk brakes front and rear along with the USD forks.
Check this thread for the latest info. http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20563
The CSC TT250 also has the counter balanced engine.
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Old 02-18-2019, 10:42 AM   #9
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I prefer the non counterbalanced engine for a couple reasons. Yes they vibrate a bit more but it's not excessive, and to me it feels more natural. They are also true to the original CG design and thus do not have a chain driven oil pump or added gears, bearings, balance shaft. Otherwise there isn't a big difference.


 
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I prefer the non counterbalanced engine for a couple reasons. Yes they vibrate a bit more but it's not excessive, and to me it feels more natural. They are also true to the original CG design and thus do not have a chain driven oil pump or added gears, bearings, balance shaft. Otherwise there isn't a big difference.
I feel the same way about the Non- counterbalance engine. Less moving parts to worry about. If the bike is geared properly to where the engine isn't screaming at high speeds you won't even notice any vibration. Going from the stock gearing to what I'm running now made a huge difference. I find that my Hawk runs smooth for not being a counterbalanced engine.
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Old 02-18-2019, 05:14 PM   #11
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I feel the same way about the Non- counterbalance engine. Less moving parts to worry about. If the bike is geared properly to where the engine isn't screaming at high speeds you won't even notice any vibration. Going from the stock gearing to what I'm running now made a huge difference. I find that my Hawk runs smooth for not being a counterbalanced engine.
I agree JerryHawk, I have a Hawk and it hardly vibrates at all, of course I am comparing that to my 117" non balance V-twin that will shake you pretty good at idle. Counter balancing also steals some of the power from the motor, and on these little engines I would rather have the much needed power rather than have it balanced. Less moving parts to fail is also a big advantage.


 
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Old 02-18-2019, 11:13 PM   #12
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this just reinforces my statement on the other post. you need a local dealer and a main stream bike be it new or used. china bikes are not going to be a good fit for you.
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:54 AM   #13
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this just reinforces my statement on the other post. you need a local dealer and a main stream bike be it new or used. china bikes are not going to be a good fit for you.
So...I shouldn’t consider a Hawk because I didn’t know if that was a counter balanced engine? Thanks for your input


 
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:24 AM   #14
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So...I shouldn’t consider a Hawk because I didn’t know if that was a counter balanced engine? Thanks for your input
I was told the same thing when I started looking for a china bike. Pay them no attention some folks just like to poke there finger in your eye.
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:40 AM   #15
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I prefer the single speed motorcycles and that way there are fewer
gears and bearings that could break and plus those extra gears just
add extra weight... you know like those funny balance shafts that
smooth out the engine vibes and have about one thousandth of the
forces applied to them compared to big end or small end of a piston
rod etc... I actually prefer those solid tires that never go flat as well :<

Regarding reduction in vibration..... Notably there with be a distinct increase
in longevity that will never be noticed simply because things dont break as
often in all things electrical. Wires and connections are subject to vibration
fatigue over time in ways that are not obvious until they fail. This was discovered
in aviation about 85 years ago and is to this day a primary focus area
for all Airframe and Powerplant licensed mechanics. For some reason they
decided an intermittent electrical connection was not justification for an
airplane crash.


 
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