11-29-2016, 09:32 PM | #1 |
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TT vs. Hawk
Ok, so I'm gonna go ahead and put it out here. So, just what is my extra 1,000 dollars plus buying me in a TT250? I can see the forks are inverted on the TT and the thing is 50 state legal (not that that matters to me, or at least I hear for S.C.) And I see that CSC assembles the bike, which I don't care about that, I don't want "professional" assembly. Are they made by the same factory? Anyone ever park a Hawk next to a TT and compared them in person. Someone sell me on spending an extra grand plus. READY, SET,....................GO!!
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11-29-2016, 10:01 PM | #2 |
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just a few things added to get dot/epa road use in all 50 states approval as far as i see
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11-29-2016, 10:32 PM | #4 | |
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11-30-2016, 01:08 AM | #5 | |
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After all, technically this bike has inverted forks as well.... |
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11-30-2016, 02:42 AM | #6 |
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Being a California resident I was extremely pleased to be able to buy a new and affordable STREET LEGAL 250 dual sport from China. It really is a big deal out here with the emissions Nazis and all. I ended up buying two of them and they are a blast - now that they have new sprockets, pipes and re-jetting.
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11-30-2016, 05:57 AM | #7 |
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I know companies switched to upside down forks to eliminate the forks from getting hung up in ruts with the long travel and make them less prone to flexing on dirt bikes. Neither of these bikes have long travel forks but people are looking for what they are used to seeing.
I don't have a problem with leading axle front forks if they don't hang 3 or 4 inches below the axle. But if you put nice old 1981 Yamaha YZ 465 in front of me I would ride it and sound like little girl the whole time.
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11-30-2016, 07:01 AM | #8 |
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tt250 has
300 watt alternator 2 accessory plugs switched to the right switch cluster helmet lock tool kit and tool kit holder USD forks 1 year unlimited mileage warantee decent parts source perhaps other differentiators... |
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11-30-2016, 07:47 AM | #9 | |
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Hawk has more aggressive off road type tires that are street legal DOT approved. TT tires are less aggressive and likely better for street use. I've had many china bikes, i wouldn't let the forks of the TT sway your opinion, the forkes on the Hawk work pretty well. Same for the balanced engine on the TT, I've had both and don't consider it a game changer.... I forget who it was on the board here that has both and preferred the non CB motor, so go figure. The real major difference is CARB cert. |
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11-30-2016, 08:09 AM | #10 |
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Two major differences-- EPA/DOT for the TT250 (street legal in ALL states) EPA off-road certification for the Hawk (street legal in MANY states due to street equipment)
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11-30-2016, 08:27 AM | #11 | |
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I have both the balance shaft and standard engines and prefer the standard, however mine are 200 cc engines which could make a difference.
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11-30-2016, 09:30 AM | #12 |
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I have a TT and a Hawk. I would buy another TT before a Hawk.
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11-30-2016, 09:47 AM | #13 |
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Why?
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11-30-2016, 10:23 AM | #14 |
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It's my opinion about my two bikes. I like the TT
Remember Merlin I can't say why because I could be to harsh, can't have that now can we. |
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11-30-2016, 10:37 AM | #15 |
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this whole balance shaft vs not has me thinking. I have had many thumpers, and my TT250 is the smoothest. It feels like it would run at 8200RPM all day, and my hands and feet don't suffer. I cannot imagine it would be better without the balance shaft.
As far as the forks go. I doubt there is any measurable benefit. Certainly the "adjustable" rear shock on my TT is still a sh*t shock. I'd certainly feel better taking apart the conventional fork of the Hawk. nice not having to worry about electric heated gear with the 300W alternator on the TT. |
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