Deceptive Business Practices ?

Jim · 04-09-2008, 03:41 AM

Found this reading the usage policies on another website (freewebs), thought it might be useful to some people here.

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Deceptive Business Practices

The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) handles complaints about deceptive or unfair business practices. To file a complaint, visit: http://www.ftc.gov/ and click on "File a Complaint Online," call 1-877-FTC-HELP, or write to:

Federal Trade Commission
CRC-240
Washington, D.C. 20580

If your complaint is against a company in another country, please file it at http://www.econsumer.gov/.

IronFist · 09-03-2008, 10:10 PM

Intresting post Jim.
Bump :roll:

alonzo · 09-03-2008, 11:51 PM

shouldnt this be a sticky in dealer,discussions :?:

SpeedSouth · 09-04-2008, 05:10 PM

For whatever it's worth, I contacted the FTC about a company last year, and they seemed to be dealt with fairly quickly.

My complaint was about promotional emails. I "opted out" month after month, each time thinking "no more of that", only to get a new email the following month. I contacted the company (which required I provide an email address and create an account) several times and finally just gave up on them ever helping.

I contacted the FTC and the emails stopped for 2 months, then started up again...at which point I contected the FTC once more, providing all of the case numbers and information from the previous experience, and I haven't seen an email from that company since. Finally!

Granted, my situation wasn't the same as what some may potentially need the FTC's help with here, but they DO take action based on the information you submit via their online form. I was never contacted directly. All I wanted was for the emails to stop. Mission accomplished!

frostbite · 09-04-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by alonzo

shouldnt this be a sticky in dealer,discussions :?:

Good idea. Done!

IronFist · 09-05-2008, 12:24 AM

I thought it deserved a bump :wink:

Oklahoma_Outlaw · 02-04-2010, 05:34 PM

I chose this section since it is for dealers and distributers. As you know Almon and I over on www.china-moto.com and I recently became dealers for not only parts but motorcycles. In addition to being an authorized V-Bike dealer we also searched new suppliers in order to be able to market motorcycles at a cheaper price and provide better service to buyers. We were contacted by a importer by the name of Travis Oberg dba Yoshida Motorsports and a year of talking to him we finally made a couple of purchases from him. After not receiving our products we became suspicious and made deeper inquiries. The full story is below please view it.

I posted in this section since he does not go after individual purchasers but dealers. If you have been contacted by this guy...do not believe ANYTHING he says. He is very smooth and convincing. BEWARE.

Read the story here. We are finding more and more buyers each day that have been or are in the process of being de-frauded out of their money by this thief.

http://www.china-moto.com/cgi-bin/ya...1265268233/0#0

Thanks and beware,
Almon and Stan
www.china-moto.com

tmec808 · 10-04-2015, 04:15 PM

i got a very bad experience with excalibur motorsports.

beware of doing business with this company. good and friendly when taking your money but no response when something goes wrong.

see my thread here.

PM me if you have any questions i will be glad to explain in detail what happened to me. hopefully no one else has to go through this kind of unnecessary loss.

If you are a company do not advertise a warranty when in reality there is no warranty or gaurante that you will get a safe working bike.

thats what their marketing should say "send us your money we may send you a working bike, but , maybe not and if not you deal with it and we still keep all of your money"!

again buyer beware.

thread here http://www.chinariders.raptorrefuge....640#post193640

simonjester · 06-29-2016, 02:18 PM

It appears that Saferwholesale may be one to avoid. See this thread:
http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?p=223052

harlis · 04-24-2017, 11:06 AM

I got burned bad by this guy. Avoid at all cost. http://www.bbb.org/stlouis/news-even...atv-parts-inc/ Please read. Avoid buyatvsonline.com

Azhule · 04-24-2017, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by harlis

I got burned bad by this guy. Avoid at all cost. http://www.bbb.org/stlouis/news-even...atv-parts-inc/ Please read. Avoid buyatvsonline.com

Chinese ATV Parts operates more than two dozen websites (sound familiar to anyone?!? cough "Manny" cough cough).

They include ATVPartsUSAWholesale.com, BajaPartsOnline.com, BuyAtvsOnline.com, BuyATVPartsOnline.com, BuyKazuma.com, ChineseAtvOnline.com, ChineseAtvParts.com, Gy6150EnginePartsWholesale.com, HighRPMRacer.com, KazumaPartsOnline.com, LoncinEngineParts.com, KazumaRacing.com, LifanEnginePartsWholesale.com and RedCatOnline.com

rwl6935 · 04-24-2017, 11:42 PM

Which distribution center/s or websites are manny affiliated with?

Darkrider · 04-25-2017, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by rwl6935

Which distribution center/s or websites are manny affiliated with?

Almost seems like the question should be what ones isn't he?

rwl6935 · 04-25-2017, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkrider

Almost seems like the question should be what ones isn't he?

Is he the same manny who is on this site on a regular basis going by the screen name manny? Or are there more that one manny on the site?

culcune · 04-25-2017, 07:53 AM

There is a random member 'manny' who ended up buying a Honda instead of an Enforcer. The 'real' Manny did join here as Txpowersports at one point (I believe that is the member's name?).

09-04-2008, 05:10 PM	#4
SpeedSouth Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 710	For whatever it's worth, I contacted the FTC about a company last year, and they seemed to be dealt with fairly quickly. My complaint was about promotional emails. I "opted out" month after month, each time thinking "no more of that", only to get a new email the following month. I contacted the company (which required I provide an email address and create an account) several times and finally just gave up on them ever helping. I contacted the FTC and the emails stopped for 2 months, then started up again...at which point I contected the FTC once more, providing all of the case numbers and information from the previous experience, and I haven't seen an email from that company since. Finally! Granted, my situation wasn't the same as what some may potentially need the FTC's help with here, but they DO take action based on the information you submit via their online form. I was never contacted directly. All I wanted was for the emails to stop. Mission accomplished! __________________ 2008 American Lifan LF200 GY-5 (930 km) - Sold 2007 Kawasaki EX250 - Sold 2006 Kawasaki EX650R - My new ride! 2005 Kawasaki EX250 - A new project
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09-05-2008, 12:24 AM	#6
IronFist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 2,585	I thought it deserved a bump :wink: __________________ IronFist ___________________________________ The "chain" of command is used for beating spammers. ___________________________________
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02-04-2010, 05:34 PM	#7
Oklahoma_Outlaw Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 13	I chose this section since it is for dealers and distributers. As you know Almon and I over on www.china-moto.com and I recently became dealers for not only parts but motorcycles. In addition to being an authorized V-Bike dealer we also searched new suppliers in order to be able to market motorcycles at a cheaper price and provide better service to buyers. We were contacted by a importer by the name of Travis Oberg dba Yoshida Motorsports and a year of talking to him we finally made a couple of purchases from him. After not receiving our products we became suspicious and made deeper inquiries. The full story is below please view it. I posted in this section since he does not go after individual purchasers but dealers. If you have been contacted by this guy...do not believe ANYTHING he says. He is very smooth and convincing. BEWARE. Read the story here. We are finding more and more buyers each day that have been or are in the process of being de-frauded out of their money by this thief. http://www.china-moto.com/cgi-bin/ya...1265268233/0#0 Thanks and beware, Almon and Stan www.china-moto.com __________________ Co-Admin China-Moto.biz Dealer of Motorcycles and performance products for China built motorcycles.
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06-29-2016, 02:18 PM	#9
simonjester Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 311	It appears that Saferwholesale may be one to avoid. See this thread: http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?p=223052 __________________ 2016 CSC TT250
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04-25-2017, 07:53 AM	#15
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,056	There is a random member 'manny' who ended up buying a Honda instead of an Enforcer. The 'real' Manny did join here as Txpowersports at one point (I believe that is the member's name?). __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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09-03-2008, 10:10 PM	#2
IronFist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 2,585	Intresting post Jim. Bump :roll:
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09-03-2008, 11:51 PM	#3
alonzo Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 527	shouldnt this be a sticky in dealer,discussions :?:
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10-04-2015, 04:15 PM	#8
tmec808 Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 27	i got a very bad experience with excalibur motorsports. beware of doing business with this company. good and friendly when taking your money but no response when something goes wrong. see my thread here. PM me if you have any questions i will be glad to explain in detail what happened to me. hopefully no one else has to go through this kind of unnecessary loss. If you are a company do not advertise a warranty when in reality there is no warranty or gaurante that you will get a safe working bike. thats what their marketing should say "send us your money we may send you a working bike, but , maybe not and if not you deal with it and we still keep all of your money"! again buyer beware. thread here http://www.chinariders.raptorrefuge....640#post193640
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04-24-2017, 11:06 AM	#10
harlis Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 1	I got burned bad by this guy. Avoid at all cost. http://www.bbb.org/stlouis/news-even...atv-parts-inc/ Please read. Avoid buyatvsonline.com
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04-24-2017, 11:42 PM	#12
rwl6935 Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 203	Which distribution center/s or websites are manny affiliated with?
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