rear sprocket clip removal

shrubitup · 11-16-2009, 12:30 AM

Is this a circlip? I found that I could insert needle nose pliers into the clip and pry outward which made it expand. However, my pliers don't expand far enough to hold the clip open. All they do is slip outside of the two holes and and hafta start over again which yields the same result. :evil:

How do you guys remove your sprocket circlip? Once gone, will rear sprocket come off? Trying to go from 56-45T in the rear. :P

This is on a GY5-200 knockoff made by Kazuma.

Weldangrind · 11-16-2009, 12:39 AM

You need snap ring pliers, like these:

shrubitup · 11-16-2009, 01:27 AM

Thank you!8) Where to find them? NAPA Auto Parts?

SpudRider · 11-16-2009, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by shrubitup

Thank you!8) Where to find them? NAPA Auto Parts?

Yes, you should be able to purchase them at any auto parts store. For example, this following link describes the snap ring pliers available at Auto Zone.

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/cat...e=nysQuestions

However, you can also buy them at Harbor Freight.

I bought a set with interchangeable heads, shown in the link below, for $4.99. 8)

http://search.harborfreight.com/cpis...iers&Submit=Go

Spud

katoranger · 11-16-2009, 08:53 AM

You need to buy a larger pair too though. The smaller won't spread far enough.

Allen

FastDoc · 11-16-2009, 11:57 AM

You can fake it with needle nose pliers. You may need to file the tips.

SpudRider · 11-16-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by katoranger

You need to buy a larger pair too though. The smaller won't spread far enough.

Allen

That's a good point, Allen. I haven't encountered any circlips on my Zongshen 200GY-2. I just bought the Harbor Freight snap ring pliers because they were on sale.

Spud

katoranger · 11-17-2009, 09:14 PM

Larger needle nose pliers also work well. That's a good tip.

Allen

shrubitup · 11-17-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by katoranger

Larger needle nose pliers also work well. That's a good tip.

Allen

Pun intended? :wink:

Mechanic friend of mine lent me his snap ring pliers. On goes the 45T and a new Tsubaki chain tonight! :o

david3921 · 11-17-2009, 10:24 PM

In a pinch, I've used two spade type drill bits. Take one in each hand. put the points in the clip holes, and spread them apart to remove the clip. To get more leverage you can hold them with pliers.

SpudRider · 11-17-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shrubitup

...Mechanic friend of mine lent me his snap ring pliers. On goes the 45T and a new Tsubaki chain tonight! :o

You're going to enjoy the Tsubaki chain, Shrub; it is an excellent drive chain.

Spud

lego1970 · 11-17-2009, 11:13 PM

Some snap ring pliers sets come with both spreaders type and closer type, plus different size needles that are both angled and straight, that you can bolt into place. I personaly like the fixed kind because some times the needles slip on the versatile/bolt kind, but the versatile kind are nice just because you don't have to spend a bunch of money buying a bunch of different sized and angled fixed ones.

Spreader/Closer/Angled/Straight/Versatile/Fixed, Sorry my statement is not very clear, wish I had pics to explain what types I'm talking about. Sally found Seven Sea Shells by the Sea Shore. Ok, now I'm just going crazy.

katoranger · 11-18-2009, 08:35 AM

lego, I a set of those along with many fixed ones too. I've been accused of hoarding tools.

lego1970 · 11-18-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by katoranger

lego, I a set of those along with many fixed ones too. I've been accused of hoarding tools.

Glad someone could make sense of my post

shrubitup · 11-20-2009, 03:36 AM

Got the rear sprocket on tonight! :P Ordered it to fit a XL185S and it fit perfectly!!!

However, neither the 106 or 114 lengths of new Tsubaki chain came close - both too short. I'm now running 15/45 gearing and neither worked. :evil:

I will order another one from Racer Supply. Their max length is 120. The stocker is 128 not counting the master link. It was way too big to work of course.

I hope 120 does it this time. Estimating links on a 520 and then applying that to a 428 chain clearly does not work. Different enough dimensions to mess up the guesstimate. :oops:

I should have removed the stocker and counted links before ordering the first two paper weights.

I'm gonna have $57 into three chains (with shipping). That's more than half of what I paid for the bike.

11-16-2009, 12:30 AM	#1
shrubitup Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 29	rear sprocket clip removal Is this a circlip? I found that I could insert needle nose pliers into the clip and pry outward which made it expand. However, my pliers don't expand far enough to hold the clip open. All they do is slip outside of the two holes and and hafta start over again which yields the same result. :evil: How do you guys remove your sprocket circlip? Once gone, will rear sprocket come off? Trying to go from 56-45T in the rear. :P This is on a GY5-200 knockoff made by Kazuma.
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11-16-2009, 12:39 AM	#2
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	You need snap ring pliers, like these: __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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11-16-2009, 08:53 AM	#5
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	You need to buy a larger pair too though. The smaller won't spread far enough. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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11-16-2009, 11:57 AM	#6
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	You can fake it with needle nose pliers. You may need to file the tips. __________________ Happy to serve.
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11-17-2009, 09:14 PM	#8
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Larger needle nose pliers also work well. That's a good tip. Allen __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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11-16-2009, 01:27 AM	#3
shrubitup Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 29	Thank you!8) Where to find them? NAPA Auto Parts?
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11-17-2009, 10:24 PM	#10
david3921 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,040	In a pinch, I've used two spade type drill bits. Take one in each hand. put the points in the clip holes, and spread them apart to remove the clip. To get more leverage you can hold them with pliers.
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11-17-2009, 11:13 PM	#12
lego1970 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Blue Springs, Missouri. United States Posts: 505	Some snap ring pliers sets come with both spreaders type and closer type, plus different size needles that are both angled and straight, that you can bolt into place. I personaly like the fixed kind because some times the needles slip on the versatile/bolt kind, but the versatile kind are nice just because you don't have to spend a bunch of money buying a bunch of different sized and angled fixed ones. Spreader/Closer/Angled/Straight/Versatile/Fixed, Sorry my statement is not very clear, wish I had pics to explain what types I'm talking about. Sally found Seven Sea Shells by the Sea Shore. Ok, now I'm just going crazy.
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11-18-2009, 08:35 AM	#13
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	lego, I a set of those along with many fixed ones too. I've been accused of hoarding tools. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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11-20-2009, 03:36 AM	#15
shrubitup Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 29	Got the rear sprocket on tonight! :P Ordered it to fit a XL185S and it fit perfectly!!! However, neither the 106 or 114 lengths of new Tsubaki chain came close - both too short. I'm now running 15/45 gearing and neither worked. :evil: I will order another one from Racer Supply. Their max length is 120. The stocker is 128 not counting the master link. It was way too big to work of course. I hope 120 does it this time. Estimating links on a 520 and then applying that to a 428 chain clearly does not work. Different enough dimensions to mess up the guesstimate. :oops: I should have removed the stocker and counted links before ordering the first two paper weights. I'm gonna have $57 into three chains (with shipping). That's more than half of what I paid for the bike.
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