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[katoranger]

I don't know the Canadian Politicians, but I liked Bush. He kept the us from entering this recession in 2001. I don' like all the money he has spent during his terms and so of his decision's, but he has kept us from more terrorist attacks in this country and lowered the taxes on millions of Americans.

I too don't watch TV news or read anything in a newspaper. I have seen firsthand the information distorted by TV/paper reporters. (The place I work is in the news alot, please don't ask.)

Obama is most likely going to be bad for America, but it is unfair to judge him before he starts.

My ancestors did not come to America so that government could control there lives and support there every need. They came here to get away from the religious persecution and the chance to succeed on there own.

I better stop babbling now.

Allen

[olddude]

You folks in Canada are the same as us down here.
the folks that don`t read or watch the news no the most.
PS. Don`t say any thing bad about bush,only say the good things
about him that way Canada will be a much quiter place. :roll: :roll:

[IronFist]

Yer right. I'll go away now.

[katoranger]

We are all entitled to our opinions.

I should clarify. I don't watch TV to get my news. I may see something, but I usually go to find another source to verify the information before forming an opinion.

If we all listened to the media and the people at TT none of us would be riding a chinabike.

We went and found true objective unbiased information before making a decision.

Allen

[SpeedSouth]

And yet another marijuana law reform discussion is swept under the carpet and out the door...

[Kawazacky]

HAHAHAH! So true.

Personally, I don't know why alcohol consumption is legalized but marijuana isn't. (I don't use either, and have no interest in it). I suspect alcohol causes far more problems than marijuana could.

On the Harper/Bush/Obama topic....


I find it interesting to hear thousands of Canadians moaning for a young. charismatic leader like Obama when they had the opportunity to elect one a few years back and soundly rejected him. Stockwell Day (remember him) was running for change too (remember the Reform Party?) but the media jumped on his back (especially Rick Mercer, partly, I suspect, because of his own personal interests in the election - I'm not trying to bash Rick here, but I think that's why he started that Doris Day vote).

Stockwell was deemed "too scary" because he wanted Canadians to become more self-sufficient and stop sucking the government teat.

Now, (and I don't mean this offensively to anyone) I had no use for Bush because he wasted soldier's lives on a war he couldn't finish. Plus, while he ran under a veneer of conservatism, the government got bigger and bigger when he was in. I think Bush is very socialist. Too bad the only other options were Kerry and Gore.

Harper.......well, he's done some stupid stuff and some smart stuff. If he can survive his current problems, he may stay in power long enough to change this country. Like frostbite, I appreciate his stance on gun control/hunting, but he has made some bad choices (screwing the East coast on election promises, cozying up to seperatism). I still haven't figured out what to think of him. I do like him better than the other options available.

I'm not trying to offend anyone on here. This is just how I see it. You are entitled to your own opinions.

[Alaskan-Dad]

We could use a new $40 billion dollar industry about now! And California could use the $13+ billion dollar crop to tax. And money saved in law enforcement and our court system would be a plus!

We will see if we get Change.............
.........or if its ......................
.................. Just the same old song and dance
.................................................. ..............................my friends!

I don't really think the multi national corporate's would really allow people to have a say about the laws we live under

[warrior91]

Originally Posted by Alaskan-Dad

We could use a new $40 billion dollar industry about now! And California could use the $13+ billion dollar crop to tax. And money saved in law enforcement and our court system would be a plus! :!: :wink:

We will see if we get Change.............
.........or if its ......................
.................. Just the same old song and dance
.................................................. ..............................my friends!

I don't really think the multi national corporate's would really allow people to have a say about the laws we live under

You said a real sad but true mouthful !!!!!
I could not agree more.

[kmoore]

ok just from my take on this people seriously think that obama is going to be the great green hope and leaglize dope.

now i neither commend nor condone pot useage but i think there are bigger issues that need to be addressed long before pot is even thought about..

how bout the new laws that are going to be passed that takes away your civil freedoms

1. making it illegal to talk on a cell phone while in your car.
2. making it illegal to smoke in your own car.

and by making pot legal you will be opening the door to other arguments to legalize other drugs and it will send this country into a spiraling decent into darkness from which we will never return..... but wait were halfway there anyway.

[IronFist]

1. making it illegal to talk on a cell phone while in your car.
2. making it illegal to smoke in your own car.

Those are laws here. Not trying to stir the pot.

[kmoore]

its all good i just dont think i need big brother telling me whats best for me. i work i pay my bills and pay my taxes. if the government is going to start telling me what i can and can not do with my own personal property and what i can and cant do in my car i WILL be sending my payment book addressed to MR. Obama at 1600 pensylvania ave.

what we need in this country is less government control. i dont need someone telling me when its time to go to the bathroom and how many sheets of tp i need to use when im through. thats all im saying.

[Jim]

That cell phone one is bogus... It is already the law in some states, and in some Canadian provinces... They make completely ridiculous claims like driving while talking on a cell phone is the same as driving drunk (yes they said this, which I guess means it's no big deal since our Premiere and Police do it), or that you are 400% more likely to crash if you are using your cell phone. How is it that talking on a cell phone is more distracting then talking to the passenger of the vehicle? The reason they are coming up with these ridiculous stats are that there are more people on the road, and there are more people with cell phones, who may be using them on the road. Just because someone crashed while they were on the cell phone does not make the cell phone the cause, but that is what these people would have you believe. We should blame the cell phone for all our problems and take no personal responsibility. And for the record I would like to state that I am not a big cell phone fan, I simply use a cell phone for communication when needed. I drive all day every day, and I talk on the phone while driving, I also talk on the radio, drink bottled water, and occasionally snack on some crackers or a sandwich. I wonder why I haven't crashed, maybe I should try my hand a DUI, if it is really the same as driving while talking on the phone I would be a pro. :roll:

Disclaimer: I am not encouraging driving while intoxicated, I am simply being sarcastic.

[suprf1y]

I spend a lot of time on the road, and drive a lot more than most. I DO NOT like the gov to interfere with my life, but... I support the ban on cell phone use in cars 100%.
I don't think anyone will disagree that there are a lot of drivers on the road that struggle to drive well under ideal conditions (know where I'm going here?).
Sorry guys, but I've seen far too many people driving 20 km/h under the limit, in the wrong lane, with a cell phone stuck to their heads.
They are a danger to themselves, and me.

[kmoore]

ok you support the ban on all cell phone use in a car. so in the case of an emergency and your away from home and something happens to one of your loved ones you would rather wait till you get to your end destination then power up your cell phone to find out that something bad happened. if

you want to ban something that is pointless and a severe distraction you should go after all the gps units i see people messing with at 70+ mph trying to figgure out where there going.

my cell phone is my only phone it is used for business and personal calls not answering it or missing a call could cost me lots of money.

***edit to add insted of new post***

ok if they ban cell phones i have another list of things to ban from cars
1. that cup of coffee between your legs
2. food of any nature
3. your spouse (we all know what a distraction that can be)
4. your kids (enough said)
5. any and all dash or window mounted bobbles
6. no radios allowed in any vehicles
7. pets
8. passengers

oh well enough of my babbling

[suprf1y]

Originally Posted by kmoore

ok you support the ban on all cell phone use in a car. so in the case of an emergency and your away from home and something happens to one of your loved ones you would rather wait till you get to your end destination then power up your cell phone to find out that something bad happened. if

you want to ban something that is pointless and a severe distraction you should go after all the gps units i see people messing with at 70+ mph trying to figgure out where there going.

my cell phone is my only phone it is used for business and personal calls not answering it or missing a call could cost me lots of money.

Then ***PLEASE WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE****, and make your call.
Infact, these GPS units with video display (are there any other kind?) are not legal in most places, but routinely ignored.
Nothing you have to do is so important that you must be able to talk on your phone while you drive down the road.
This option did not exist until recently, and we all managed.