Templar M owners, please

[Thumper]

Can you post in this thread a photo of the lower legs of the shock (connected to the linkage). On the X, the legs are a couple of inches longer than needed, which allows drilling new lowering mounts. We are wondering if there is room for drilling new mounting position to "shorten" the rear shock like you can do on the X.

Also, does the M have a removable set screw to remove the muffler tip. It's on the Standard Templar, but not the X. Photo please!!

[Aussie_in_MO]

Thumper, the lower end of the rear shock is visible in the Xpro assembly video on YouTube around 25min, 30 seconds. Looks like there may be enough room to drill?



Rear suspension at 10min 18sec, in this one and there's also a couple of shots of the muffler at 9min 50 sec (not seeing a set-screw) in this video:

[Twowheeler]

Originally Posted by Thumper

Can you post in this thread a photo of the lower legs of the shock (connected to the linkage). On the X, the legs are a couple of inches longer than needed, which allows drilling new lowering mounts. We are wondering if there is room for drilling new mounting position to "shorten" the rear shock like you can do on the X.

Also, does the M have a removable set screw to remove the muffler tip. It's on the Standard Templar, but not the X. Photo please!!

This is the bottom of my rear shock from the right side. Not only is it totally different than the X, I cannot get my spring compressor on safely, to replace it, and no one within 80 miles of me, will work on Chinese bikes.

[Thumper]

Finally. THANK YOU, two wheeler, and Aussie (from April 1st)!

It looks exactly like the lower connection on the Templar X. The person that "answered" my question about room for another mounting position must have been looking at the upper mount (no room at all!).

I am sure you can drill a lowering position, and it will work the same as it does on the Temp X.

Here is post #33 from the Templar resource thread. There is a link to the full description of how to do it.

https://www.chinariders.net/showpost...4&postcount=33

I think ~7/8" will give you 2" or maybe a little more. 1" gave me close to 3" drop on the 6 speed Templar X. I am sure the linkage is identical.

I will find out once I get my son's Templar M, whenever they are back in stock!

[Thumper]

Thumper, the lower end of the rear shock is visible in the Xpro assembly video on YouTube around 25min, 30 seconds. Looks like there may be enough room to drill?

(video link- shown above)

Rear suspension at 10min 18sec, in this one and there's also a couple of shots of the muffler at 9min 50 sec (not seeing a set-screw) in this video:

(video link- shown above)


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Thanks Aussie, YES, the videos definitely show the lower shock mount legs, and the access plug for removing the muffler insert on the M.
THANK YOU!

I am confident that the M has the exact same shape on the lower mounts for the rear shock. Two Wheeler's photos are kind of dark, but suggest the same.

As for the muffler insert, I'll explore this when I get my son's new Templar M. A spark arrestor replacement might open up the flow and provide a larger diameter USFS approved spark arrestor anchor.

[Thumper]

I ordered a lowering link for the KTM. THe lower mounting position does have room for an additional hole. epending on how this goes, I might do that instead, or in addition to the link. They say 10-30cm, depending on the model (it's good for many KTMs, Husqvarnas, others).






I will measure the link on the Templar and compare these, including the original KTM link. They might be identical in the bushing diameter and length. Or they might be compatible with a washer or two.

While they are out, I can measure the dog lengths, then measure height before and after to see how much lower it really is. I will post results here in this thread.

[Twowheeler]

[Quote]I am confident that the M has the exact same shape on the lower mounts for the rear shock. Two Wheeler's photos are kind of dark, but suggest the same.

Sorry about the pics. I didn't have much lighting. My M, has a totally different rear shock design, than your X. I looked at your pics. I saw how you did it. The bottom fork is thicker just above the bolt, making it impossible to drill a hole safe enough away from stock hole. I would just replace the whole shock, but can't get my compressor on good enough, to safely remove it. It's a tight space. I bought the exact same compressor that you had and bent the tabs in, but did not have a way to cut them. These pics are from the Xpro site. Between my phone and my shaky hands, I could not get a better photo. The left one is M and the right one is X.

[Thumper]

Oh. That thickening isn't obvious in the video either. If I can ever buy a Templar M, I will take a closer look.

I do have the lowering link on the way. It's supposed to fit the KTM, probably incompatible with the Templars, but I will take measurements anyway.

You should be able to remove the rear shock. Just unbolt it and drop it out the bottom, can't you? No need to compress it. There is just one bolt at the top. Linkage should swing out of the way.

[Twowheeler]

I will try. But I cannot find a shorter one to replace it. Man, I could kick myself, for not getting the X. I changed my mind halfway trough my layaway, and bought the M. Oy vey. I was going to post a video of my delivery, etc., but never did. Long story, but R and L driver, never secured it and I had damages. Everything is fine now. PowersportsMax people were awesome!

[Thumper]

"but Rand L driver, never secured it and I had damages. Everything id fine now. "

Translation...?? "R&L driver never secured it, and it had damages..."

Is this correct? What damages?

There may be other ways to lower it. Glad PSM took care of you.

[GypsyR]

R&L wasn't kind to my Templar either. Powersportsmax really stepped up though.

[Twowheeler]

Too much to go into here. I'll post pics, etc., asap.

[dgmartin]

drilling method for lowering, screws up the bike geometry. not good.

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by dgmartin

drilling method for lowering, screws up the bike geometry. not good.

Worked perfectly on my Templars. It effectively shortens the shock. A longer link accomplishes the same end. I also shimmed the front forks up about 3/4 inch. You can re-engineer it to suit your stature.

I sold my Templar X, but we did the same thing on my son's Templar X. Works great. I ride it periodically. Easy flat foot.

No one is forcing you to do it

[dgmartin]

easily correctable just return to original hole for correct bike geometry. everyone would lower bikes this way if it worked. Bike is still rideable just terrible low speed handling.