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Old 11-15-2023, 01:01 PM   #1
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The RE Himilayan lists for ~$5500. Add dealer prep, sales tax, insurance and registration, and you are well North of $6000. It is probably one of the best choices for an adventure tour bike if you plan to actually go off the pavement because of its lighter weight and unusually low center of gravity (most bikes in this class are horribly top heavy!).

But the point is that the Lifan KPR 250 will come in at more than $2000 less than that, about $3600-3800, depending. And it weighs under 280lbs dripping wet.

Also, personal property tax on the Lifan around here would be under $100. It is a 250. Bigger bikes have higher annual property tax and higher insurance premiums. It isn't just the bike you are buying! I was able to add my Templar 250 to an existing Geico plan for about $35 because I bought it outright and all I wanted was liability (financial responsibility) and uninsured motorist insurance. Finance a bike and you will be required to have comprehensive insurance, and pay much more.

I pay nearly 3 times as much in annual property tax than insurance. If you finance, you still pay both and the insurance will be significant.

Still not wiping clean of the Lifan. The SCRAM411, is actually for sale for less than 4K. I ran a quick Progressive quote for a financed bike, and came out to about 75 for the year based on me and where I live.

The only reason I would choose the RE over the Lifan now, is that I can bring the RE back to the dealer and say, Hey, Fix this! I am not mechanical at all!


 
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Old 11-15-2023, 02:49 PM   #2
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Still not wiping clean of the Lifan. The SCRAM411, is actually for sale for less than 4K. I ran a quick Progressive quote for a financed bike, and came out to about 75 for the year based on me and where I live.

The only reason I would choose the RE over the Lifan now, is that I can bring the RE back to the dealer and say, Hey, Fix this! I am not mechanical at all!
On the used market, you can do even better. with the new Himalayan model coming out, the used ones are dropping in price. I saw a used one with low mileage for 3800 the other day.
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Old 11-16-2023, 07:10 AM   #3
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On the used market, you can do even better. with the new Himalayan model coming out, the used ones are dropping in price. I saw a used one with low mileage for 3800 the other day.
yes, the new ones do look amazing. Maybe Ill be ready for one someday.

I can get a brand new 23 model for 3899


 
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Old 11-15-2023, 04:59 PM   #4
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The only reason I would choose the RE over the Lifan now, is that I can bring the RE back to the dealer and say, Hey, Fix this! I am not mechanical at all!
Scram411 owner here - ask me anything. I bought it as a gateway drug to get back into dualsport, something at a medium price range to feel out 1. if I really did want to get out into the woods, 2. to sort out what I really wanted and needed, and 3. to do all that before dropping stupid money.
It’s as heavy as I want to go. It’s as low HP as I would ever want to go. India requires owners to keep bikes stock, with only official addons so… it’s crazy simple to get all the basics from half a million different manufactures in India who make OEM products for RE and sell overproduction on eBay, for cheap, that ship to the US crazy fast. “Well, you get what you pay for…” That’s right - a thumper that you can literally drive like everyone in India does.
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Old 11-16-2023, 07:14 AM   #5
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Scram411 owner here - ask me anything. I bought it as a gateway drug to get back into dualsport, something at a medium price range to feel out 1. if I really did want to get out into the woods, 2. to sort out what I really wanted and needed, and 3. to do all that before dropping stupid money.
It’s as heavy as I want to go. It’s as low HP as I would ever want to go. India requires owners to keep bikes stock, with only official addons so… it’s crazy simple to get all the basics from half a million different manufactures in India who make OEM products for RE and sell overproduction on eBay, for cheap, that ship to the US crazy fast. “Well, you get what you pay for…” That’s right - a thumper that you can literally drive like everyone in India does.
Ill keep you in mind! I am going to go and look at one tomorrow! I am not looking to bomb through the wilderness or ride out to Sturgis in the pouring rain. Just looking to commute to work, and MAYBE go check out a fire road or a dirt road through a park or something. Speed? Nah, not my thing. I like to "cruise" around in my Mustang with the top down on a nice day. I think this one will be perfect for me.

I did not even know about RE until someone here mentioned it, so thank you!


 
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