12-15-2022, 04:09 PM | #16 |
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Well Dan these bikes are more efficient now so don't need all the fuel. Yeah, i don't get it either. why not slap a huge tank on it.
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12-15-2022, 04:46 PM | #17 |
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On the flipside.. i'd love to have an option of bypassing local dealers and having Japan ship the bike thru an importer who then delivers the bike in a crate and i put it together to save 40% of what the dealers are asking.. that would be sweet
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12-15-2022, 05:21 PM | #18 |
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Back in the 80's the local Honda dealer would sell dirt bikes and three wheelers to the guy's that raced in the create. You could save a few hundred bucks back then. Of course you got no warranty anyway because you were using for racing.
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12-15-2022, 05:35 PM | #19 |
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Yea i figured that was the case when the big-4 was first getting their foothold in the US market.. eventually the same will happen with the China bikes and then we'll have to wait for another newcomer.. maybe Yugo-bikes.. wait what!
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12-15-2022, 07:19 PM | #20 |
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That is still going on ,my 3 new crf450r’s I got in the crate this summer for almost half price,and my sons new snowcross race skidoo’s also came in the crate .No warranty on the Honda’s but 70% off on parts and equipment ,and when you race for factory team skidoo they send us multiples of anything we need for free .
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12-16-2022, 03:59 AM | #23 | |
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I definitely agree with this. What’s important is a neutral indicator. Especially on these Chinese bikes.
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12-16-2022, 08:43 AM | #24 |
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No tach, no gear indicator, more $$ than the KPX250, smaller fuel tank than the KPX250, inferior forks = NO THANKS!
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12-16-2022, 09:39 AM | #25 | |
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Agree, it's not a good answer. But comparing the bikes, Kawasaki definitely is trying to answer. John |
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12-17-2022, 03:02 PM | #26 |
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I have a feeling it is to please California CARB's gods. On the EPA Excel sheet, they list bikes intended as '49S' and '50S' and some state both '50S + 49S' as the KLX does. Not sure why smaller tanks make a bike more eco-friendly, but that is my theory.
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12-18-2022, 03:59 PM | #27 |
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short wheelbases
I've had to rule out a number of ~300cc options, especially the little 'Sport' bikes, because they have ~54" wheelbases (as does the KLX230, CF Moto 300NK). Coupled with low seat heights, I couldn't fold myself (6'2", 220 in gear) onto one.
We often hear "I wouldn't ride that long on the highway." ... without explaining 'why'. While dizzying rpm with small displacements and low torque is one reason, those short wheelbases are going to feel/be less directionally stable than longer wheelbase 'cruisers' (which won't 'turn' as easily or be as 'flickable' as short wheelbases). ... same with cars, btw. Ahh ... the compromises. I noticed that the popular dual-sports (CRF300L/Rally, KLX300, KPX250, Templar x250) run ~57" wheelbases. I'm not inclined to assume that design engineers don't know what they're doing! |
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