Hawk 250 Electrical gremlins

swolff · 10-21-2019, 11:55 AM

My hawk seems to have died on me. When I turn the key, I get nothing. No lights, my digital dash won't turn on, nothing. Here's what I've tried so far:
*charging the battery -not the problem
* checking the connections -noticed the pink wire at the connection under the gas tank had burned. Replaced it, no change
*checked fuses- not the problem
-checking the ground - nope
*praying - didnt help
*selling my soul to satan - also didn't help.
Sometimes wigging connectors gives me a flickering light on my dash. Ive checked every single one and didnt find a problem.
What's wrong with my bike?!

Megadan · 10-21-2019, 12:20 PM

Check for a broken wire or pin, or a pin that maybe got pushed back out, inside one of the connectors. My last Hawk did this to me randomly one day and I ended up finding the red wire at the ignition switch broken at the pin inside the connector on the chassis side of the harness. The connectors these bikes come with are pretty cheaptastic.

NzBrakelathes · 10-21-2019, 07:19 PM

Red wire in loom near regulator broken
Strip loom a bit near steering area.

Unplug ignition barrel connect red to black see if bike turns on, this takes out the ignition switch and would show if or not it’s the ignition switch or wiring issue

Duckman · 10-22-2019, 11:45 AM

The same thing happened with my brand new TBR7 I’m not sure the wiring is the same color. Mine was a brown wire that came out of a harness. Under the seat next to the air box. If I can figure out how to post a pic. I will. Name: 2060E784-E49F-4522-8F62-1363ADC52E1D.jpg
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swolff · 10-22-2019, 03:20 PM

Ok, so It to turn on by unplugging the 8 pin connector that hooks up to the speedo. But now it wont start. Any thoughts?

AresROC · 10-22-2019, 03:30 PM

Reconnect the 8 pin connector and start the bike. Here are the diagrams to help you:

swolff · 10-22-2019, 03:59 PM

Correction, 6 pin. Connecting the black wire causes it to shut off.

AresROC · 10-22-2019, 05:10 PM

6 pin is gear indicator plug... Maybe you have a kickstand position sensor being faulty... Black wire is Ign+ 12 volt use a multi-meter see if it's grounded maybe.

NzBrakelathes · 10-22-2019, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by swolff

Correction, 6 pin. Connecting the black wire causes it to shut off.

Black wire is Ignition +
So you have the stock speedo? if connected no go? only go with dash off?
So maybe black is leaking to another something?

Also try this plz:
Unplug ignition barrel 4 pin plug so NO power from battery and kick start it, this should make the bike run but no lights or electrcal to work - what is the result?

So what you are saying connect the dash BUT without black wire the bike runs? all works?
At the dash the black wire runs the fuel gauge and + for neutral light.

swolff · 10-23-2019, 06:38 AM

I have the digital dash. If i disconnect the black wire from the connector everything works except for the electric start. It runs fine otherwise.

NzBrakelathes · 10-23-2019, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by swolff

I have the digital dash. If i disconnect the black wire from the connector everything works except for the electric start. It runs fine otherwise.

The dash? Which one? Which supplier? Me or another?
So ign on is causing issues etc
Pics please? More details etc?

swolff · 10-24-2019, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by NzBrakelathes

The dash? Which one? Which supplier? Me or another?
So ign on is causing issues etc
Pics please? More details etc?

I'll post pics as soon as I get a chance. As I'm sure you can tell by my post times, I work nights. It is your dash. No problems on the dash side of the harness. Confirmed by using another dash with same problems more details:

Bike can be kicked/bump started
Dash display comes on while kicking, dies as soon as motion stops
Bike dies in netrual, runs in gear with clutch pulled in
As previously stated, electric start does not function

NzBrakelathes · 10-24-2019, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by swolff

I'll post pics as soon as I get a chance. As I'm sure you can tell by my post times, I work nights. It is your dash. No problems on the dash side of the harness. Confirmed by using another dash with same problems more details:

Bike can be kicked/bump started
Dash display comes on while kicking, dies as soon as motion stops
Bike dies in netrual, runs in gear with clutch pulled in
As previously stated, electric start does not function

Which version? TT or Bross?
Where are you located? I am in the USA next week and will have more with me.
Let me think about what could be what and plz clear details as to when you have iisues - any issues with stock dash now? for diag purposes.

NzBrakelathes · 10-24-2019, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by swolff

Correction, 6 pin. Connecting the black wire causes it to shut off.

6 pin being the gear ind LED part? Hawk needs the extra llom and there will not be a black wire at the extra loom - the black from the gear LED ind on bross style loops back upto the black wire at the gas gauge connection - Pics and more details so I can work out what version n what might be the issue etc.

If gear in side - disconnect at the engine area?
Or if Bross style I did/do have another with a minor nuisance as the internal LCD board pins just touch the base of the gas gauge motor and screws need to be loosened and LCD rotated to clear internally.
If my unit please send a message via how we contacted etc as I am lost as to who I sold a Hawk set too and what version it is etc.

swolff · 10-25-2019, 07:44 AM

Its a tt style. Im in Georgia. Dash works fine, just don't want to have to kick the darn thing every time. I dont think its the gear indicator connector. Is there another 6 pin connector?

10-21-2019, 11:55 AM	#1
swolff Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 14	Hawk 250 Electrical gremlins My hawk seems to have died on me. When I turn the key, I get nothing. No lights, my digital dash won't turn on, nothing. Here's what I've tried so far: charging the battery -not the problem checking the connections -noticed the pink wire at the connection under the gas tank had burned. Replaced it, no change checked fuses- not the problem -checking the ground - nope praying - didnt help *selling my soul to satan - also didn't help. Sometimes wigging connectors gives me a flickering light on my dash. Ive checked every single one and didnt find a problem. What's wrong with my bike?!
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10-21-2019, 12:20 PM	#2
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,051	Check for a broken wire or pin, or a pin that maybe got pushed back out, inside one of the connectors. My last Hawk did this to me randomly one day and I ended up finding the red wire at the ignition switch broken at the pin inside the connector on the chassis side of the harness. The connectors these bikes come with are pretty cheaptastic. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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10-21-2019, 07:19 PM	#3
NzBrakelathes Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Hell Posts: 2,408	Red wire in loom near regulator broken Strip loom a bit near steering area. Unplug ignition barrel connect red to black see if bike turns on, this takes out the ignition switch and would show if or not it’s the ignition switch or wiring issue Last edited by NzBrakelathes; 10-21-2019 at 08:35 PM.
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10-22-2019, 11:45 AM	#4
Duckman Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Molalla Oregon Posts: 95	The same thing happened with my brand new TBR7 I’m not sure the wiring is the same color. Mine was a brown wire that came out of a harness. Under the seat next to the air box. If I can figure out how to post a pic. I will. Duckman out
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10-22-2019, 03:30 PM	#6
AresROC Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 193	Reconnect the 8 pin connector and start the bike. Here are the diagrams to help you: __________________ BaShan BSR 250 DB-41H 2018 Red BS250GY-18D JFG Racing Exhaust . Adjustable Shock 320mm . Brozz Digital Gauge . Renthal Fat Bar . 428 17x46 Sprocket . Fender Eliminator . Wheel Truing . Fuel Tank Repair . Keihin PZ30 Main-115 Pilot-38 Needle-1Washer Fuel Mixture-1/2 BSR Chronicles - "Project leads to more projects!" Yamaha WR250R Suzuki GSX-R 600
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10-22-2019, 03:20 PM	#5
swolff Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 14	Ok, so It to turn on by unplugging the 8 pin connector that hooks up to the speedo. But now it wont start. Any thoughts?
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10-22-2019, 03:59 PM	#7
swolff Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 14	Correction, 6 pin. Connecting the black wire causes it to shut off. Last edited by swolff; 10-22-2019 at 04:00 PM. Reason: More info
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10-22-2019, 05:10 PM	#8
AresROC Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 193	6 pin is gear indicator plug... Maybe you have a kickstand position sensor being faulty... Black wire is Ign+ 12 volt use a multi-meter see if it's grounded maybe. __________________ BaShan BSR 250 DB-41H 2018 Red BS250GY-18D JFG Racing Exhaust . Adjustable Shock 320mm . Brozz Digital Gauge . Renthal Fat Bar . 428 17x46 Sprocket . Fender Eliminator . Wheel Truing . Fuel Tank Repair . Keihin PZ30 Main-115 Pilot-38 Needle-1Washer Fuel Mixture-1/2 BSR Chronicles - "Project leads to more projects!" Yamaha WR250R Suzuki GSX-R 600
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10-23-2019, 06:38 AM	#10
swolff Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 14	I have the digital dash. If i disconnect the black wire from the connector everything works except for the electric start. It runs fine otherwise. Last edited by swolff; 10-23-2019 at 06:39 AM. Reason: Spelling
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10-25-2019, 07:44 AM	#15
swolff Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 14	Its a tt style. Im in Georgia. Dash works fine, just don't want to have to kick the darn thing every time. I dont think its the gear indicator connector. Is there another 6 pin connector? __________________ 2019 Hawk 250 - PWK carb, NIBBI throttle cable, Bitwell whisky throttle, digital dash, CRF230F titanium exaust, NGK spark plug, o-ring chain, old/locking style gas tank, 17t front sprocket, 39t rear sprocket, OKSTNO mirrors, LED headlight, GUB phone mount, ATLAS throttle lock, more to come. Lifan KPR 200 - Stock. For now... Last edited by swolff; 10-25-2019 at 08:21 AM.
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