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Old 02-28-2019, 03:03 AM   #1
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Magician front rim and spokes?

I need a new front rim and spokes for a 2016 Magician. I didn't see anything in stickies and what I read from supermoto threads it's all uncommon stuff.. Needing shipped $200.00 a wheel custom spoke service.

I think there is a complete Hawk wheel in the classifieds.. Is it same hub?


 
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:14 AM   #2
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different totally different hub wheel and everything


 
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Old 02-28-2019, 08:22 AM   #3
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i got a busted hub upon delivery and the speedo at hub.
i ordered a replacement(without tire but with tube) from
directly in Texas Ricky power sport(RPS). there are few Chinese
amazon like places that sell it too(yellow river), but the wait will be long and cost
savings at minimum. get someone on the phone at rps because their website
doesn't really help with the magician wheels for parts ordering online.


 
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Old 02-28-2019, 06:13 PM   #4
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i got a busted hub upon delivery and the speedo at hub.
i ordered a replacement(without tire but with tube) from
directly in Texas Ricky power sport(RPS). there are few Chinese
amazon like places that sell it too(yellow river), but the wait will be long and cost
savings at minimum. get someone on the phone at rps because their website
doesn't really help with the magician wheels for parts ordering online.
If they charge $90.00 for any one of the block gaskets I'd hate to see what a wheel costs..


 
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Old 02-28-2019, 06:25 PM   #5
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If they charge $90.00 for any one of the block gaskets I'd hate to see what a wheel costs..
no more than 150 delivered from rps, or like yoycart dot com
search yellow river wheel, or magician wheel. same thing


 
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Old 03-01-2019, 03:58 AM   #6
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no more than 150 delivered from rps, or like yoycart dot com
search yellow river wheel, or magician wheel. same thing
Customs and shipping must be bad.. I found all the OEM Magician stuff even in rare colors, and 17" supermoto wheel sets specifically for the Magician, in seconds yet this is the first I've heard of yoycart

That $14.00 back fender is almost $150.00 through a dealer or RPS


 
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Old 03-01-2019, 09:29 AM   #7
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no more than 150 delivered from rps, or like yoycart dot com
search yellow river wheel, or magician wheel. same thing
You've been happy with yoycart? I've just read 19 customer reviews, and to be polite about it, let's us just say the business method is not one that North Americans feel comfortable with...ARH


 
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Old 03-01-2019, 09:45 AM   #8
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You've been happy with yoycart? I've just read 19 customer reviews, and to be polite about it, let's us just say the business method is not one that North Americans feel comfortable with...ARH
is time consuming, and once you pay the vendor they will contact you in few days to pay the more-shipping$. then customs will contact you after that more $. but yes it works, but about 20-30days from ship to delivered. like i said, its marginal savings if can wait.
i dont know of a better way to get a magician wheel. if you do then please tell the author, not me...


 
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:04 AM   #9
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Better Rims are easy to find. https://www.amazon.com/AHL-Motorcycl...gateway&sr=8-2

You will need to measure the spokes and can get for a decent price on Aliexpress. https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...14e92f4fCNEG4R
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/JQOR...4badPxopSg&s=p
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Old 03-01-2019, 09:14 PM   #10
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Better Rims are easy to find. https://www.amazon.com/AHL-Motorcycl...gateway&sr=8-2

You will need to measure the spokes and can get for a decent price on Aliexpress. https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...14e92f4fCNEG4R
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/JQOR...4badPxopSg&s=p
same spoke count just 0.3" wider. I'll likely go this route due to time.

I have enough unbroken spokes to get the measurements I just hope the angles work.

Code:
supermoto sets 10-20 mm wider tires
https://www.yoycart.com/Product/583800742905/
https://www.yoycart.com/Product/583940627366/
https://www.yoycart.com/Product/586622342445/
https://www.yoycart.com/Product/586895821175/
old school gold OEM size set
https://www.yoycart.com/Product/587182523640/
https://www.yoycart.com/Product/575652363596/
Magician spoke sets
https://www.yoycart.com/Product/559610495785/



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Old 03-01-2019, 09:32 PM   #11
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You've been happy with yoycart? I've just read 19 customer reviews, and to be polite about it, let's us just say the business method is not one that North Americans feel comfortable with...ARH
I can easily get a wheel and send a wheel - just not clear what it qould cost if not DHL (that is about $100)
I have pondered wheels via EMS and options on ali rims and stainless spokes but even then I would need to be near $195 as it is all a load of work to arrange 1 by 1 wheel and source the right hub for some of these bikes.

I kinda feel it will all be very painful on my end and customers will get pissy - so far I havent soent the days trying to work it out on these cheap bikes, just the RX3


 
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Old 03-09-2019, 06:16 PM   #12
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Just an update

All Magician front wheel spokes are 95 degree, 210mm, and 3.5mm. I measured all of the spokes I could recover from the wrecked wheel.

Bearings are 5202RS

I haven't built motorcycle wheels enough to know if the dimple size or pattern on the rim matters if not. Like if I can just get any rim with same spoke count and spoke diameter.. Most of the wheel market lists compatibility and little to no specs..
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