01-24-2008, 08:23 PM | #16 |
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Lifan seems like the safer bet, but I really like the look of the Hi-bird and I will need the extra 50cc too carry the "extra" me around if ya know what I mean. (Yes I'm kinda a big guy). But on the other hand parts and repairs seem to be firmly in the Lifan camp. But there seems to be some sort of bad blood over on the Lifan side....
It just goes on and on and on. I just want a cool little bike to ride on the logging roads and around town. Hell I just like working on motorcycles. And I still don't know what I want to do. The only local dealer is for Qlink and I don't see any reason to send him $2000.00 for a bike that does not appear to be any better than what I can get online for a $1000 less. |
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01-24-2008, 09:11 PM | #17 |
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Hey gloomhound,
I noticed your in Charleston WV.I was born in Wheeling.Yes that part of the country has the need for as musch cc's as you can muster. I have no doubt that wich ever bike you choose you have some beautiful county to ride in. [/img] |
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01-24-2008, 10:28 PM | #18 | |
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Member 'Crazy Carl' who lives in China owns one (the Qingqi-badged model). Search thru the Ride Reports threads for his story of a long weekend on his bike, with his wife on the back. At least try to get a test ride on one at the dealer, and form your own opinion. here is the link to that thread--Carl is good about answering posts, and he should be able to help answer questions you may have. http://chinariders.net/modules.php?n...ewtopic&t=2993 Member 'Catastrophix' from Sweden contributes here, too, and owns a Qingqi, too. He has a diagram of a Suzuki 200cc engine in his gallery for comparison.
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01-24-2008, 10:32 PM | #19 | |
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Look forward to your reports on the Hi-Bird.
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01-24-2008, 11:22 PM | #20 |
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As to the Qlink power to weight looks a little on the light side, and that compared to the Lifan. But the one I looked at was tight. (or seemed to be tight anyway)
Can you buy this bike online? |
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01-25-2008, 08:28 AM | #21 |
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If you are willing to take alittle risk in favor of more power then a hi-bird may be a good choice for you.
Others have mentioned good service from Tim at vbike and it sounds like he will stand behind his product. SamM struggled with Qlink for months on parts and finally gave up. Allen
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01-25-2008, 09:00 AM | #22 |
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Hi Guys... Yes I have jets in stock.
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01-26-2008, 01:01 AM | #23 |
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And of course the drama never ends. Is it me or does it seem that the market supply of the Hi-Birds seems to be drying up?
Also does anyone know anything about the Hi-bird being a clone of a Honda? |
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01-26-2008, 01:18 AM | #24 | |
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As far as the term "clone"--no, these bikes are not "clones" although the technology is loosely based on Honda engineering. This was discussed here almost 2 years ago, and as far as anyone can tell, very, very little of these bikes are interchangeable with any Honda, except things like sprockets.
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01-26-2008, 02:59 AM | #25 | |
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01-26-2008, 12:11 PM | #26 | |
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So while the term "clone" gets bandied about, these bikes really don't think, act, or mimic a Honda enough to interchange most anything.
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01-26-2008, 02:25 PM | #27 |
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The Chinese bike engines appear to be reverse-engineered from the Honda engine design (dependable, durable, ect). Very similar to the Russian Ural's who reverse-engineered the German BMW in 1940. The bikes and engines look the same on the Russian and German bikes, but the parts are not interchangeable. Same with the Chinese vs Japanese engines. If the engines were true clones, I guess parts would interchange since they would be the same.
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01-28-2008, 12:37 PM | #28 |
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some parts are the same i know that there is a honda starter relay not sure off what because i matched it up at the dealer. i was going to buy it until he said $70. now i'm not saying that everything is the same just stating somethings are. maybe not cloned but borrowed technoligy.
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01-28-2008, 07:06 PM | #29 |
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It's looking more and more like it's going to be an Lifan, due to if nothing more than you can get one cheaper. And the Hi-birds seem to be drying up. Any word on when the GY-6's will be available?
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01-28-2008, 09:53 PM | #30 |
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Just curiouse,where did you read that hibirds were drying up?I plan on purchasing a 250 in a couple of months.The 250's came out in july of 2007 I purchased one with a few other models to sell in my driveway.I am also a member of a couple other atv sites and it seems to me that the hibird atv's are still moving.It just concerns me because I was really impressed with it and if there is a move to their extinction my eays and ears are open.
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