07-07-2013, 02:31 PM | #16 |
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They are not directly Honda engines ,They are made by asiawing china. Quote from canadamotogiude( The dual sport is essentially one of their dirt bikes (that uses a Honda 450X DERIVED motor but detuned a tad to give 40 rwhp)
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07-07-2013, 03:11 PM | #17 |
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Not to be the negative neddy, but I hope Asiawing sorted their bike out, with help from CCW. There was a thread on Mychinamoto a couple years back from a guy in China giving a first hand account of his ownership-he wasn't too pleased from what I remember.
SSR has recently introduced a near exact copy of the CRF250 dirt bike. Cannot copy/paste the photo due to being on a tablet, but it's now on their site. Their bike is priced at arround $3500.
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07-07-2013, 03:18 PM | #18 |
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My guess is the engines are made by Asiawing. They have no problem touting their 250 and 300 engine origins as being GasGas (under specifications), but their 450 lineup states a generic liquid-cooled 450 engine.
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07-07-2013, 03:18 PM | #19 | |
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07-07-2013, 03:21 PM | #20 | |
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07-07-2013, 03:34 PM | #21 |
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A Chinese "derived" version of a Honda engine, is not a Honda engine. However, I am intrigued by the Navy Seal's successful employment of the Christini 450 AWD motorcycle.
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07-07-2013, 09:45 PM | #22 | |
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So, the U.S. military is using Chinese copies of a Honda.
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07-08-2013, 07:51 AM | #23 |
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Indeed. The Chrisiti AWD technology is fascinating. Therefore, I started a new, dedicated thread to the Christini AWD bikes at the following link.
http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...d=1#post155281
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07-08-2013, 08:43 AM | #24 |
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There does seem to be an influx of new 450s all sporting very similar Chinese engines these days ... sort of like the 200cc China bike boom of a few years ago.
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07-08-2013, 09:30 PM | #25 |
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Current word on the CCW bikes . Awaiting final compliance approvals EPA. I will try to get an update later this week . 30 Bikes built and ready to ship as so as they have compliance cert. . I believe between the Awd Chrisiti and The CCW bikes the 450cc engines have different specs ,when the CCW bike first popped up there were specs also posted (gone now ) 9.to1 compression . the Chrisiti has 11 to1 compression posted . I suspect the military may have spec'd a lower compression Chisti to improve long term reliability.
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07-09-2013, 01:25 AM | #26 |
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Most definitely. I think it started with the Xingyue 400s a couple years back, and now these Asiawing 450s.
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07-09-2013, 11:10 AM | #27 |
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Another wave of possibly much improved bikes. Only issue I see is the initial purchase price. It may not be an issue to others, but it should bring us more members.
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