opinions and facts witch is better and why 163fml or 169fm - Page 2

humanbeing · 02-23-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kawazacky

... RTW bike

CG125 is a legend bike that most countries as (expect US/ Canda which BIG = good ) local workhose (WORLD) / Learner's bike (Europe) that EVERY roadside repair shops stocks genuine/ clone parts.
Pan - America using Chinese made Honda CGL125: http://www.ojurik.com/bike/

Barnone · 02-24-2011, 07:40 AM

I think that I had one of those CG125 Hondas or similar back in 1974. Never had a bit of trouble with it for the five years that I owned it.

Cal25 · 02-24-2011, 08:44 AM

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The Dirt Rat has a 163 FML. Just checked.

FD,
My Bobber has a 167FMM engine. Do you know what Honda model and year it was cloned from?
Thanks,

Your 167fmm is that 229cc ? i finding it very hard to find reliable info on all these different models .

Yes, the 167FMM engine on my bobber is the push rod 229cc which i now think is the bored and stroked Honda CG125 engine but I could be wrong. The engine does not have the kick starter but have the oil sight glass and a dip stick. Kinda weird?

I agree about the difficulty of finding reliable info on these Chinese clones.

I just checked the engine on my bike and it is a 169FMM, but it is 250cc and overhead cam. I think it is built by Zongshen

humanbeing · 02-24-2011, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Barnone

I think that I had one of those CG125 Hondas or similar back in 1974. Never had a bit of trouble with it for the five years that I owned it.

CB125S (122 actual) huh? Taiwanese SYM's wolf series is based on that :x
CG125 1st in market ~1975 http://world.honda.com/history/chall...5/text/04.html

Kawazacky · 02-24-2011, 03:38 PM

I would love to have my old GY-5 back just for its engine. If I had the skill, I'd love to build a utilitarian go-anywhere survival bike from it. It was just so simple to work on..... I miss it..

Not as badly as my XS650, though.

Kawazacky · 02-24-2011, 04:08 PM

I believe this bike here http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycles/honda-ctx-200/

is the bike that was the ultimate inspiration for the Lifanoids.

I'd love to have one. I doubt they will ever get imported to North America, though - if you want a farm bike, most people just get a TW200.

FastDoc · 02-24-2011, 04:14 PM

See if you can track down a nice old XL200. That would fit the bill for you.

Weldangrind · 02-24-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kawazacky

I believe this bike here http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycles/honda-ctx-200/

is the bike that was the ultimate inspiration for the Lifanoids.

Yet another flavour. You find some interesting bikes Zack!

recracer · 02-24-2011, 05:22 PM

i've found 3 different 250 166fmm 65.5mmÃ—66.2mm 223cc ', 167fmm 67mmx 65mm 229cc the 169fmm is 232.6cc 69 bore and 62.2 stroke

recracer · 02-24-2011, 08:23 PM

In most of the Lifanoids, imported at least .the push rod engine seems to be the majority player . I don't know if its a cost thing or a reliability or warranty decision. i also found that the last letter in the case of fml the l is for 200cc class and the fmm the last m is for 250cc class , so they didn't leave a spot for a 230cc class

recracer · 02-25-2011, 11:54 AM

if you had the choice for an upgrade for fml163 197cc push rod engine . either a fmm166 223cc overhead cam or fmm167 229cc overhead cam . would you go with the rule that more displacement is the better . both of these can be had at a reasonable price .

FastDoc · 02-25-2011, 12:10 PM

The OHC is superior to the OHV. Which OHC is largely academic, but with all else being equal, I'd go for the few extra cc's.

How much will the motor(s) be? I'm always on the CL lookout for the next Dirt Rat, although I'd like a street legal XL.

recracer · 02-25-2011, 12:22 PM

http://stores.ebay.com/Porsche-944-P...&_sid=77860546looks like he bought up a closed dealer display parts .

FastDoc · 02-25-2011, 12:34 PM

Good price. About $100 less than usual. No carb or electrics though but those should add up to less than another $100.

Barnone · 02-25-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FastDoc

The OHC is superior to the OHV. Which OHC is largely academic, but with all else being equal, I'd go for the few extra cc's.

Speaking about extra cc's.
Is this a 400cc CG125?
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/37...ine_400cc.html

02-24-2011, 04:14 PM	#22
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	See if you can track down a nice old XL200. That would fit the bill for you. __________________ Happy to serve.
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02-25-2011, 12:10 PM	#27
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	The OHC is superior to the OHV. Which OHC is largely academic, but with all else being equal, I'd go for the few extra cc's. How much will the motor(s) be? I'm always on the CL lookout for the next Dirt Rat, although I'd like a street legal XL. __________________ Happy to serve.
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02-25-2011, 12:34 PM	#29
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Good price. About $100 less than usual. No carb or electrics though but those should add up to less than another $100. __________________ Happy to serve.
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02-24-2011, 07:40 AM	#17
Barnone Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,354	I think that I had one of those CG125 Hondas or similar back in 1974. Never had a bit of trouble with it for the five years that I owned it.
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02-24-2011, 03:38 PM	#20
Kawazacky Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Saint John, N.B. Posts: 279	I would love to have my old GY-5 back just for its engine. If I had the skill, I'd love to build a utilitarian go-anywhere survival bike from it. It was just so simple to work on..... I miss it.. Not as badly as my XS650, though.
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02-24-2011, 04:08 PM	#21
Kawazacky Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Saint John, N.B. Posts: 279	I believe this bike here http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycles/honda-ctx-200/ is the bike that was the ultimate inspiration for the Lifanoids. I'd love to have one. I doubt they will ever get imported to North America, though - if you want a farm bike, most people just get a TW200.
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02-24-2011, 05:22 PM	#24
recracer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charles Town W.V. Posts: 849	i've found 3 different 250 166fmm 65.5mmÃ—66.2mm 223cc ', 167fmm 67mmx 65mm 229cc the 169fmm is 232.6cc 69 bore and 62.2 stroke
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02-24-2011, 08:23 PM	#25
recracer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charles Town W.V. Posts: 849	In most of the Lifanoids, imported at least .the push rod engine seems to be the majority player . I don't know if its a cost thing or a reliability or warranty decision. i also found that the last letter in the case of fml the l is for 200cc class and the fmm the last m is for 250cc class , so they didn't leave a spot for a 230cc class
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02-25-2011, 11:54 AM	#26
recracer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charles Town W.V. Posts: 849	if you had the choice for an upgrade for fml163 197cc push rod engine . either a fmm166 223cc overhead cam or fmm167 229cc overhead cam . would you go with the rule that more displacement is the better . both of these can be had at a reasonable price .
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02-25-2011, 12:22 PM	#28
recracer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charles Town W.V. Posts: 849	http://stores.ebay.com/Porsche-944-P...&_sid=77860546looks like he bought up a closed dealer display parts .
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