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JTCAndrew 03-17-2011 10:01 AM

Live Webcam of my Q
 
Getting ready to Fire up the NEW Qlink XF200 Supermoto. I will be posting the Exhuast video you all have been asking about later tonight or tomorrow. The weather here is perfect. Below is a Link to my Live webcam where you might just cath a glimpse of the event. Ride safe everyone - I'm outta here!

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Jamestown-Computer-Inc


Andrew 8)

Weldangrind 03-17-2011 10:30 AM

So cool! The sun has washed out the video image a bit, but I can see you prepping your bike. Have fun!

Weldangrind 03-17-2011 10:43 AM

Can you compensate for the brightness? After studying the image a bit, it looks like a US flag is waving in the foreground, but I'm not sure.

JTCAndrew 03-17-2011 11:10 AM

weldandgrind Bike fires up But I am having small issue with the carb adjustments. After the bike is warm, and I take the choke 3/4 of the way off and give her anykind of gas she dies right out. Like she's getting to much fuel. Chokes out and dies. So I'm reviewing my carb adjustments now. Any thoughts?

Andrew

FastDoc 03-17-2011 12:07 PM

That sounds LEAN to me but I'm not sure if that makes sense...

FastDoc 03-17-2011 12:08 PM

What's the plug look like?

JTCAndrew 03-17-2011 01:15 PM

Waiting for a cool down down - In the meantime I did just replace the idle jet with the 35 and That helped a tad bit not much. I am waiting for a cool down to pull the plug see what that looks like then I am going to pull the top of the carb (AGAIN) and put that needle valve back to factory. I have a feeling.....Waiting for cool down 30 -40 minutes....I'll keep ya posted DOC on the Plug....Thanks

FastDoc 03-17-2011 01:16 PM

Sorry for your frustration but it will be worth it when she runs well, which will be very soon! :D

katoranger 03-17-2011 01:27 PM

My connection is too slow to view the video.

Sounds like a lean condition.

JTCAndrew 03-17-2011 01:44 PM

Since both of you Are leaning toward a lean condition - Any suggestions?
My guess it has to do with moving that damn needle - I got talked into doing from someone else on another forum - I should have waited - No problem I'm going to swap it back to factory in a few minutes.....The live cam should be alittle better now - it is very SUNNY OUT Today and warm! 8)

Andrew

FastDoc 03-17-2011 01:47 PM

I don't recall. Did you move the clip down to the point of the needle or the other way? Moving the clip towards the point it richer (what you wanted) and vice versa....

Sorry if this is obvious or already discussed.

JTCAndrew 03-17-2011 02:13 PM

I had moved the clip closer to the point - I just moved it back to the orig oem position - If this does NOT Work I may have it figured out. The plunger has a plate on the inside there are three holes two are for screws. The other can be covered or uncovered based upon how that plate goes in. I have it uncovered. Which looks to be correct based upon a picture in the portguees manual. Going to put it back togather now and fire it up. We will see! 8O

Andrew

katoranger 03-17-2011 02:38 PM

Since it runs better with the choke on that indicates a lean condition.

FastDoc 03-17-2011 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katoranger
Since it runs better with the choke on that indicates a lean condition.

Yup...

FastDoc 03-17-2011 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTCAndrew
I had moved the clip closer to the point - I just moved it back to the orig oem position - If this does NOT Work I may have it figured out. The plunger has a plate on the inside there are three holes two are for screws. The other can be covered or uncovered based upon how that plate goes in. I have it uncovered. Which looks to be correct based upon a picture in the portguees manual. Going to put it back togather now and fire it up. We will see! 8O

Andrew

Since you did adjust the needle correctly that may/must be it...

JTCAndrew 03-17-2011 04:02 PM

No Luck - My First day of riding has turned to SHIT. Bike runs like crap. Tried everything. Tonight I am pulling her back in the SHOP and tearing her all back down, and Putting the Stock exhuast on to see if that has ANYTHING to do with it. I do NOT no why it would, But I've have everything else back to stock except the JETS, EXHUAST. I know the sprocket is ruled out! I don't get it. Have to start back with stock and go from there I guess.......:(

Bummer! Very disappointed.

katoranger 03-17-2011 04:11 PM

Did you turn the gas on? :wink:

FastDoc 03-17-2011 04:24 PM

Sorry we could not be of help...

You never even started it stock, huh? We have no baseline to go by/compare to...

Hey, this may matter, Kato made me think of it. One or more of the 3 Q's I've owned had a KINKED fuel line! Maybe that's it! :idea:

JTCAndrew 03-17-2011 06:45 PM

Definateley NOT the exhuast put the stock exhuast on - no change - I am at a loss. I think I am going all the way back to stock with all jets etc....and start over. If I start the bike cold and put the chocke on she fires up and idles, after a couple minutes take the choke off she'll idle, but as soon as I barely blip the trhottle - she dies. Fires right back up, take the choke off - try the trottle she dies right out. It's like she starving for fuel, spits and spudders any throttle kills her. There is ONLY and Idle air screww behind the throttle cables. Tried adjusting that to no change whatsso ever. I think i may as well pit all the Juets and put stock back in and see if that makes a difference. Nothing unusual used what everyone else has and recommened - Used a 125 main and a 35 slow idle. Crazy Thing is thiis. In the carb from the top, the slidder (PLUNGER) has three holes in the bottom. 2 are for screws. I Assumed the other needs to be uncovered. When you put the plate in the bottom of this it can actually got both ways - covered and uncovered. I went uncovered based upon other users and the portguees manual. Other owner assure me this needs to be open. Basically the hole equilizes the pressure in the plungger is what I was told. He also assure me his was uncovered. Giving it up for today will go back by the weekend and see what I can come up with, and maybe someone here has some more suggestions. I HATE FREEKING CARBURATORS! Have a good evening all - i'll check in later.

PS - No fuel line kinks - but thanks all.


Andrew

FastDoc 03-17-2011 06:56 PM

I feel your pain.

Lesson for all of us here..... :idea:

Don't modify anything without a baseline, then modify bit by bit with testing interspersed so if you hit a snag you know what went wrong.

I'll be rejetting the KLX tonight and now I'm all nervous! 8O

I also hate monkeying with carbs, ESPECIALLY when they are working well before 'fixing' them... :evil:

I usually leave my stuff stock, but I talked myself into lightening and adding power to the KLX based on sound dyno report data...

JTCAndrew 03-17-2011 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katoranger
Did you turn the gas on? :wink:

Dude - I know it's silly question to ask but yeah - Had been riding and racing bikes over the past 30 years.....

Carburators can be a Pain in the Arse when not setup correctly. Unfortunately for me I Changed Jets exhuast etc.....Before firing it up bone stock. (MY BAD - Lesson learned) I have a funny feeling this has nothing to do with it though. Something else is arry......

TYhanks for pitching in though - Even the silliest things can happen I know.

Thanks

Andrew

katoranger 03-17-2011 08:48 PM

I only ask because I had done it. Usually its the kill switch for me.

Weldangrind 03-17-2011 09:47 PM

I'm in the minority in this thread; I love working on carbs. I sure wouldn't blame the exhaust system; it just sounds like you need more fuel. I could better visualize what you're saying if I could see the plunger and plate.

Weldangrind 03-17-2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTCAndrew
I had moved the clip closer to the point - I just moved it back to the orig oem position - If this does NOT Work I may have it figured out. The plunger has a plate on the inside there are three holes two are for screws. The other can be covered or uncovered based upon how that plate goes in. I have it uncovered. Which looks to be correct based upon a picture in the portguees manual. Going to put it back togather now and fire it up. We will see! 8O

Andrew

Andrew, I would move the clip down yet another notch. If you're already at the bottom notch, I'd buy a bigger main jet. Just because a certain size main jet worked for somebody else doesn't mean it's right for you.

Also, what position is your air / fuel screw in?

JTCAndrew 03-17-2011 10:41 PM

Right now I already moved the needle clip back to oem position. The main jet is a 125 and the idle jet is a 35 - The Air Mix screwed in an attemp t to get it running better I screwed in in all the way and backed it out 2.5 turns. If time allows I'm going to Put the jets back to OEM and start all from scratch and only change one thing at a time, instaed of several. (MY BAD) I should have known better. Open to any advice.

Thanks much

ANDREW

Weldangrind 03-17-2011 11:02 PM

Andrew, I can't remember, did you change the plug? I wouldn't trust the stock plug.

JTCAndrew 03-17-2011 11:11 PM

No - But yeah I need to get a new plug as well, I agree....Will try and get one in the AM if I can.....

JTCAndrew 03-17-2011 11:15 PM

This link contains a Picture of the Plunger in the carb I was refering too.....
Still doesn't show the bottom through.....

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...-Changing-Jets

Andrew

JTCAndrew 03-17-2011 11:26 PM

Lets see if this link works - heres the pic - Copy and paste the link into your address box - it will work that way...

Andrew

http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos...nuyuwDUNwn.jpg

Weldangrind 03-17-2011 11:26 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if the plug is the problem.

JTCAndrew 03-17-2011 11:33 PM

I;m buying at least 3 - never hurts to have extra right? :lol:

Weldangrind 03-17-2011 11:42 PM

Totally agreed. Are you using a similar exhaust to other Q owners, or is yours less restrictive?

JTCAndrew 03-18-2011 12:09 AM

Should be way less restrictive. Right now I have the Orig OEM Stock exhuast back on - Easy swap - Just wanted to eliminate that as being an issue.

Andrew

Weldangrind 03-18-2011 12:34 AM

The aftermarket free-flowing exhaust is only an issue if there isn't enough fuel to compensate for the extra air flow. Perhaps a 125 main isn't big enough.

JTCAndrew 03-18-2011 06:54 AM

Don't think the Main jet to be an issue becuase I got the same result after putting the Stock exhuast back on. I'm leaning (No Pun intended) toward the spark plug as mentioned - You'll all know by later today or tonight.....Going first thing this morning to pick a few up......Wish me luck!
LMAO - Thats all I can do now is laugh at my Chinese Bike and tell myself it will all be good soon! :roll:

JTCAndrew 03-18-2011 07:05 AM

WaG - Check out the details on the Plunger I just got on MCM Last Page:

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...3617#post23617

Andrew :D

Weldangrind 03-18-2011 10:04 AM

Thanks for the link. I confess that I still don't get it, and I'm not sure which diaphragm covers the hole. It's not really that important that I understand it, as long as you figure out the correct installation.

I sure hope the spark plug cures your bike.

JTCAndrew 03-18-2011 11:53 AM

Here is what My Plug looks like for the most part. I did get 4 new plugs today - Haven't had a minute yet to put one in yet - But will today. Talked to the guys at the local dealer and they said put the OEM Jets back in, and she'll proabbly run fine. I also asked I thought if you upgrade the exhuast to a more free flowing exhuast the general rule of thumb was to rejett. His reply was not necessarily. Depends on how the bike runs. I also asked if putting the oem jets back in and running with the NEW Exhuast would hurt, and they said "NO" Not at all.....So hopefully the stock jets will get me back to normal today - later. Here is the Plug Pic. NOT Mine what what mine looks like:

http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/...rbn1_small.jpg

Andrew - Thanks to all who have commented and made suggestions. You guys ROCK!

FastDoc 03-18-2011 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind
Andrew, I can't remember, did you change the plug? I wouldn't trust the stock plug.

IIRC stock Q plug is an NGK DR8EA and unlikely to be a problem.

FastDoc 03-18-2011 12:16 PM

That plug looks OK to me.


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