03-23-2009, 10:54 AM | #1 |
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164 fml/Gio beast 200 oil change Q
We have these motors in our Geo beast quads.
After assembly on machine #2, I went to change out the Chinese oil before start up, but could not find the drain plug. The reason? It doesn't have one. Is this normal for the 200cc? The first one did, so my thoughts are that its probably a money saving engineering change, or somehow the motor found its way through with no drain hole 8O I used the filter hole to drain it. Not as good, but good enough for me. Has anybody seen this before? Also, when I refill, in order to get the right level in the sight glass, the dipstick shows that its way overfilled. I'm going by the sight glass level for now, and the amount to fill is just over 1 liter. My manual says .9 liters for a fill, so that makes me think the dipstick is correct. Either way its probably OK, I'm just curious. |
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03-23-2009, 11:28 AM | #2 |
Mine has a drain plug, so I haven't got an answer for it not having a drain plug. Does it have the machined area where the drain would be? Maybe the CNC machine missed it when they milled the block? My manual says 1.46 quarts, I think that is one liter (not sure) and the sight window will be completely covered when the bike is straight up. And the dipstick shows correct, so I usually go by the dipstick. Mine is a lifan.
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04-05-2009, 09:29 PM | #3 |
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Time to do an oil change, and since we have a few Giobeast owners on here now, maybe they can tell me.
When I fill the oil to mid-sight glass, the level is way high on the dipstick. Which level do I trust? I'm sure it doesn't matter much, and using the sight glass now, just curious what others are doing? If I recall it took one litre last time. |
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04-05-2009, 09:49 PM | #4 |
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I think it depends on your procedure; are you screwing the dipstick in all the way, or just resting it on the engine when you want to read it? It makes quite a difference in the reading on the stick.
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04-06-2009, 10:00 AM | #5 |
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I am screwing it in all the way, like you are supposed to.
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04-06-2009, 10:57 AM | #7 |
I'd trust the sight glass before i would the dip stick
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04-06-2009, 12:30 PM | #8 |
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I have never screwed in the dipstick to check oil on a bike...never owned a quad.
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04-06-2009, 03:11 PM | #9 |
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Every motor I've ever had with a dipstick has specified that it must be screwed in all the way to get a correct reading.
No big deal. Just wondering what you guys were doing with yours. |
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04-06-2009, 03:47 PM | #10 |
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I have always just inserted a screw in dipstick till it touches. So that got me to thinking. I have the owners manual for my lawn mower here at work and it has a screw in dip stick. The manual says " For accurate reading,tighten dipstick cap securely onto the tube before removing dipstick".
I wonder what the level says when the stick is just pushed in till it makes contact? Somewhere in my past I have owned equipment with screw on dipsticks that say to just push it in till it touches, but not sure what it was. I guess I need to check a little closer in the future. |
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I've got a brand new beast (june 2009) and it doesn't have a drain plug either. The only things above the two holes in the skid plate are 2 bolts holding the engine together and a very large bold that is part of the trans which I don't feel like breaking. There are no downfacing bolts or nuts at all. There is a flat space where the drain plug should probably be. |
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