Kickstarter clearance for Vader etc

Zx250r · 07-26-2018, 06:33 PM

Might get a Daytona, any rearsets compatible or kick levers etc?

RedCrowRides · 07-26-2018, 07:04 PM

Is a Daytona the same engine config as a Zs190? The Zs has an electric starter ,there are a few YouTube vids with the Zs190 swap done but I don't recall if any used the kickstarter , seems like the splined shaft for it ends up right upside a frame rail iirc. Bizmoto has a Vader with a ZS190 in it on YouTube, let me see if i can spot a kickstart lever on it in any of em.Theres supposedly a Zs190 swap FaceBook page/group but I dont know the name of it, maybe can Google it ? I've been meaning to but just havent yet.

Zx250r · 07-27-2018, 10:46 PM

Supposedly it bolts up. But without estart I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to get the kick lever to clear.

Seems I'll have to wait on a zs190 to be installed stock

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Originally Posted by RedCrowRides

Is a Daytona the same engine config as a Zs190? The Zs has an electric starter ,there are a few YouTube vids with the Zs190 swap done but I don't recall if any used the kickstarter , seems like the splined shaft for it ends up right upside a frame rail iirc. Bizmoto has a Vader with a ZS190 in it on YouTube, let me see if i can spot a kickstart lever on it in any of em.Theres supposedly a Zs190 swap FaceBook page/group but I dont know the name of it, maybe can Google it ? I've been meaning to but just havent yet.

Zx250r · 08-04-2018, 08:04 PM

anyone try to line it up, maybe swap the kickstarter out?

RedCrowRides · 08-04-2018, 10:03 PM

This Bizmoto video shows his Zs190 swapped Vader walk around :

He doesnt specifically talk about it but at about 2:45 you can see the kick start stub shaft sticking out, it's nearish the frame/ rearset but it looks to me like if you welded

a 3" or so extension on to a kickstarter pointing straight out ,then welded the shaft back on, you would have room to kick down enough to start it w/o hitting the footpeg, but that is assuming the Daytona has the kickstarter shaft in the same position as a Zs190 engine, and i really know nothing about the Daytona other than I've heard of it . I wouldnt try something like that ,that would be at that angle under stress if it was a big motor like my sportster, but I cant realistically see a 190cc having enough compression to break a weld that would be of that size , assuming a good welder does it. The only issue i see is the kick starter would end up kinda hanging "out there" ,but it would be behind your foot / leg, not in front of it .anyways if you look close in the video you can see where the kickstarter would be and get an idea of how it would have to be modified to fit ,then you can start turning over in your mind how to do that and end up with something workable.

07-26-2018, 06:33 PM	#1
Zx250r Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 22	Kickstarter clearance for Vader etc Might get a Daytona, any rearsets compatible or kick levers etc?
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07-26-2018, 07:04 PM	#2
RedCrowRides Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 759	Is a Daytona the same engine config as a Zs190? The Zs has an electric starter ,there are a few YouTube vids with the Zs190 swap done but I don't recall if any used the kickstarter , seems like the splined shaft for it ends up right upside a frame rail iirc. Bizmoto has a Vader with a ZS190 in it on YouTube, let me see if i can spot a kickstart lever on it in any of em.Theres supposedly a Zs190 swap FaceBook page/group but I dont know the name of it, maybe can Google it ? I've been meaning to but just havent yet. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT 2004 Sportster 2018 VADER 2020 Orion RXB250L
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08-04-2018, 10:03 PM	#5
RedCrowRides Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 759	This Bizmoto video shows his Zs190 swapped Vader walk around : He doesnt specifically talk about it but at about 2:45 you can see the kick start stub shaft sticking out, it's nearish the frame/ rearset but it looks to me like if you welded a 3" or so extension on to a kickstarter pointing straight out ,then welded the shaft back on, you would have room to kick down enough to start it w/o hitting the footpeg, but that is assuming the Daytona has the kickstarter shaft in the same position as a Zs190 engine, and i really know nothing about the Daytona other than I've heard of it . I wouldnt try something like that ,that would be at that angle under stress if it was a big motor like my sportster, but I cant realistically see a 190cc having enough compression to break a weld that would be of that size , assuming a good welder does it. The only issue i see is the kick starter would end up kinda hanging "out there" ,but it would be behind your foot / leg, not in front of it .anyways if you look close in the video you can see where the kickstarter would be and get an idea of how it would have to be modified to fit ,then you can start turning over in your mind how to do that and end up with something workable. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT 2004 Sportster 2018 VADER 2020 Orion RXB250L
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08-04-2018, 08:04 PM	#4
Zx250r Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 22	anyone try to line it up, maybe swap the kickstarter out?
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