Starter problems

Lit Hawk · 03-25-2018, 06:05 PM

So I’m trying to get my start button working because kick starting it is a pain in the ass. I can jump the solenoid and it starts so I don’t think that’s the problem. I checked the wiring for continuity from start button all the way to solenoid and that’s good. If I hook up multimeter to ground and the yellow with red wire and I push start button it reads 12v. The pink wire has me confused I traced that to the clutch I don’t understand why that’s there but I have continuity all the way to the solenoid from the pink wire. Help please

timcosby · 03-25-2018, 09:17 PM

do you pull the clutch in to start it? i think you have to

BMF · 03-25-2018, 09:18 PM

Yeah, if it's in gear mine will not start when I push the button. Thank god.

Megadan · 03-25-2018, 09:26 PM

You can jump the solenoid and it turns over, meaning you are bypassing the internals of the solenoid and completing the circuit. Have you tested the solenoid itself? See if it gets continuity when you apply power to the coil.

Lit Hawk · 03-25-2018, 09:44 PM

Yeah I guess I need a new solenoid. I got constant 12v when I put multimeter to the positive side of solenoid but if I put it on the other side and pressstart button I get nothing. I wasn’t sure that if I Jumped it it could still be faulty only thing throwing me off is I put an old solenoid from junk 4 wheeler on it and it still didn’t work. Not sure how to test solenoid by itself for continuity. I guess I’ll just order another and hope that works.ill order another one now there only like $8 so we will see. There is no way it would need the clutch pulled in to start but the way it’s hooked up that’s what it seems. Weird that the pink wire goes to the clutch. Anyone know what the two wires coming out of clutch are for?

timcosby · 03-25-2018, 09:50 PM

to keep it from starting without the clurch pulled in

Lit Hawk · 03-25-2018, 10:10 PM

Timcosby You gotta be yanking my chain, right?

**JerryHawk250** · 03-26-2018, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lit Hawk

Anyone know what the two wires coming out of clutch are for?

That is a safety switch so the bike won't start if the bikes in gear. If the bikes in gear you will have to pull the clutch to start.

Porkchop41 · 03-26-2018, 01:27 PM

I found a clutch diode in the harness under the tank that kept blowing on mine . I eliminated it for now and just unplugged the clutch lever. Can only start it in nuetral for now until I track down why it keeps blowing. My hawk was shipped with the stator wires pinched off when they put the front sprocket cover on . I repaired the wires but still have that diode blow. Just completed the circuit where the diode goes and has been running fine .

Lit Hawk · 03-26-2018, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Porkchop41

I found a clutch diode in the harness under the tank that kept blowing on mine . I eliminated it for now and just unplugged the clutch lever. Can only start it in nuetral for now until I track down why it keeps blowing. My hawk was shipped with the stator wires pinched off when they put the front sprocket cover on . I repaired the wires but still have that diode blow. Just completed the circuit where the diode goes and has been running fine .

I was wondering what that was under the gas tank. I’ll check it out today and make sure that’s not my problem. Thanks

**JerryHawk250** · 03-26-2018, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lit Hawk

I was wondering what that was under the gas tank. I’ll check it out today and make sure that’s not my problem. Thanks

I had one that blew when I first got the bike and just replaced it. Never did figure out what made it blow in the first place.

Link to issue incase you are interested. http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=17772

Weldangrind · 03-27-2018, 10:39 AM

Maybe the diode they use is under-rated.

Megadan · 03-27-2018, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

Maybe the diode they use is under-rated.

Maybe, but it's more likely the typical quality control issues that lets one or two bad ones through from time to time. Like the fact that my clutch switch has never worked from day one, even on the new controls. I can just turn it over without the clutch in.

**JerryHawk250** · 03-27-2018, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Megadan

Maybe, but it's more likely the typical quality control issues that lets one or two bad ones through from time to time. Like the fact that my clutch switch has never worked from day one, even on the new controls. I can just turn it over without the clutch in.

Does it start in gear?
The only time have to pull the clutch if it is in gear. As long as it is in neutral you can start it without pulling the clutch.

Megadan · 03-27-2018, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

Does it start in gear?
The only time have to pull the clutch if it is gear. As long as it is in neutral you can start it without pulling the clutch.

Yep. Found that out one day when I was in too much of a hurry, forgot it was in gear, and hit the start button and the bike jerked forward. That was a good wake up call. Glad I never start my bike without my rear in the seat and my hand on the brake.

03-25-2018, 09:17 PM	#2
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03-25-2018, 09:26 PM	#4
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,030	You can jump the solenoid and it turns over, meaning you are bypassing the internals of the solenoid and completing the circuit. Have you tested the solenoid itself? See if it gets continuity when you apply power to the coil. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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03-25-2018, 09:50 PM	#6
timcosby Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: robertsdale alabama usa Posts: 1,007	to keep it from starting without the clurch pulled in __________________ 1991 harley heritage softail classic 2016 hawk kaw h1 400 tripple 13' long chopper in progress 2009 johnny pag bar hog 2004 hd electra glide ultra classic shriner edition 1997 harley davidson 1200 sportster 1972 harley davidson amf sx250
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03-27-2018, 10:39 AM	#12
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Maybe the diode they use is under-rated. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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03-25-2018, 09:18 PM	#3
BMF Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 24	Yeah, if it's in gear mine will not start when I push the button. Thank god.
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03-25-2018, 09:44 PM	#5
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	Yeah I guess I need a new solenoid. I got constant 12v when I put multimeter to the positive side of solenoid but if I put it on the other side and pressstart button I get nothing. I wasn’t sure that if I Jumped it it could still be faulty only thing throwing me off is I put an old solenoid from junk 4 wheeler on it and it still didn’t work. Not sure how to test solenoid by itself for continuity. I guess I’ll just order another and hope that works.ill order another one now there only like $8 so we will see. There is no way it would need the clutch pulled in to start but the way it’s hooked up that’s what it seems. Weird that the pink wire goes to the clutch. Anyone know what the two wires coming out of clutch are for?
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03-25-2018, 10:10 PM	#7
Lit Hawk Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 257	Timcosby You gotta be yanking my chain, right?
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03-26-2018, 01:27 PM	#9
Porkchop41 Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 1	I found a clutch diode in the harness under the tank that kept blowing on mine . I eliminated it for now and just unplugged the clutch lever. Can only start it in nuetral for now until I track down why it keeps blowing. My hawk was shipped with the stator wires pinched off when they put the front sprocket cover on . I repaired the wires but still have that diode blow. Just completed the circuit where the diode goes and has been running fine .
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