starter not working(hawk 250)

w0ss · 05-10-2016, 09:39 PM

Brand new hawk 250

I filled up the battery and charged it up. The neutral light came on and it turned over a few times. then suddenly it started beeping and then it died like it lost all power. I am pretty sure I hit the blinker when it died.

I hooked up a load(air mattress pump) to the battery and it ran it fine. I then took a known good battery and hooked it up and saw the same result. I followed wiring and found a small fuse near the battery that had popped. there was a replacement in the holder so I replaced it and now I have dashboard and lights but still the starter doesn't turn over or anything.

I only put in a gallon of gas but I didn't think that would make a difference.

Any ideas? I tried kick starting it but that didn't work it turns over and seems like its trying to start but doesn't

w0ss · 05-10-2016, 10:11 PM

Got it to kick start with 1/4 throttle. Off to find the idle adjustment screw since I am guessing the idle is low.

mjstef · 05-10-2016, 10:15 PM

Check the solinoid, Follow the starter wire to it. Its to the rear of the battery....

w0ss · 05-10-2016, 10:27 PM

yeah I saw the solenoid there. It was my first thought but I can't find my multi-meter. I need to go buy a multi-meter since it's easier than finding where mine is

mjstef · 05-10-2016, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by w0ss

yeah I saw the solenoid there. It was my first thought but I can't find my multi-meter. I need to go buy a multi-meter since it's easier than finding where mine is

Cross the 2 big terminals with a screwdriver.....

w0ss · 05-11-2016, 08:42 AM

ha I didn't even think to just complete the circuit

Bike started right up no problem. I got the following off of the starter solenoid 150724Q343 but it doesn't come up with anything on google. Does anyone know the part number?

BlackBike · 05-11-2016, 10:21 AM

Nice catch mjstef !

humanbeing · 05-11-2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by w0ss

... Does anyone know the part number?

Ppl from developing country don't fall into that kind of scam. Focus on the function & shape, something will works...
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For example:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=38680667490 Generic 150A starter solenoid had 2 yrs warranty by parts house...

Bruce's · 05-11-2016, 10:44 AM

Have you tested the circuit from the starter switch to the solenoid yet ? I wouldn't be surprised to find a wire disconnected ,a faulty starter switch ,or just a bad wire in the control circuit .

Ron B · 05-11-2016, 11:28 AM

I would start by pulling the head light back off and check all the connectors for bent pins(mine had one) and loose plugs.

pcspecialist · 05-11-2016, 11:33 AM

Bruce is right, the problem isn't necessarily the solenoid. Test to see if the solenoid is getting power to actuate it when you press the starter switch.

w0ss · 05-11-2016, 12:23 PM

I will take apart the headlight and check all the connections.
Thanks guys!

mjstef · 05-11-2016, 12:34 PM

You can run a hot wire from the battery to the start side of the solenoid to test it. Their is a green yellow & yellow red, Not sure which is which though and can't check right now....

jaymalmat · 05-11-2016, 03:23 PM

If you need parts. Cheap and shipping is pretty quick.
http://www.kazumapower.com/electrica...c-398_299.html

w0ss · 05-11-2016, 09:19 PM

While I was waiting for my friend and his multimeter I took the bike for a spin. It popped a fuse. I think it's the blinker. I noticed it comes on but doesn't blink and both times the fuse popped I was using the blinker.

I also noticed the brake light does not come on when the front or back brakes are applied.

ok solenoid was not the issue it was the switch. I had no continuity at the harness behind the headlight. I disassembled it and then it worked. I fiddled with it but no matter what position it worked fine. I put it back in and so far it is working.

Any ideas on the blinker/brake light? It got dark so figured I would ask before I go back at it tomorrow.

05-10-2016, 09:39 PM	#1
w0ss Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 231	starter not working(hawk 250) Brand new hawk 250 I filled up the battery and charged it up. The neutral light came on and it turned over a few times. then suddenly it started beeping and then it died like it lost all power. I am pretty sure I hit the blinker when it died. I hooked up a load(air mattress pump) to the battery and it ran it fine. I then took a known good battery and hooked it up and saw the same result. I followed wiring and found a small fuse near the battery that had popped. there was a replacement in the holder so I replaced it and now I have dashboard and lights but still the starter doesn't turn over or anything. I only put in a gallon of gas but I didn't think that would make a difference. Any ideas? I tried kick starting it but that didn't work it turns over and seems like its trying to start but doesn't
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05-11-2016, 10:21 AM	#7
BlackBike Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: George West, Texas Posts: 4,097	Nice catch mjstef ! __________________ ***************************************** 2015 Bashan"Blaze" BS250GY-31 (DB-07K-250) GONE 2017 Suzuki V Strom 650 XT "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." ~Benjamin Franklin~
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05-11-2016, 11:28 AM	#10
Ron B Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Tuscaloosa Al. Posts: 433	I would start by pulling the head light back off and check all the connectors for bent pins(mine had one) and loose plugs. __________________ Wingless Hawk, 2016 orange RX3, 97 wide glide,2003 KLR
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05-10-2016, 10:11 PM	#2
w0ss Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 231	Got it to kick start with 1/4 throttle. Off to find the idle adjustment screw since I am guessing the idle is low.
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05-10-2016, 10:15 PM	#3
mjstef Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lac Du Flambeau, WI Posts: 804	Check the solinoid, Follow the starter wire to it. Its to the rear of the battery....
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05-10-2016, 10:27 PM	#4
w0ss Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 231	yeah I saw the solenoid there. It was my first thought but I can't find my multi-meter. I need to go buy a multi-meter since it's easier than finding where mine is
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05-11-2016, 08:42 AM	#6
w0ss Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 231	ha I didn't even think to just complete the circuit Bike started right up no problem. I got the following off of the starter solenoid 150724Q343 but it doesn't come up with anything on google. Does anyone know the part number?
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05-11-2016, 10:44 AM	#9
Bruce's Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sudbury ,Ontario Posts: 855	Have you tested the circuit from the starter switch to the solenoid yet ? I wouldn't be surprised to find a wire disconnected ,a faulty starter switch ,or just a bad wire in the control circuit .
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05-11-2016, 11:33 AM	#11
pcspecialist Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 583	Bruce is right, the problem isn't necessarily the solenoid. Test to see if the solenoid is getting power to actuate it when you press the starter switch.
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05-11-2016, 12:23 PM	#12
w0ss Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 231	I will take apart the headlight and check all the connections. Thanks guys!
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05-11-2016, 12:34 PM	#13
mjstef Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lac Du Flambeau, WI Posts: 804	You can run a hot wire from the battery to the start side of the solenoid to test it. Their is a green yellow & yellow red, Not sure which is which though and can't check right now....
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05-11-2016, 03:23 PM	#14
jaymalmat Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Garland, Tx Posts: 65	If you need parts. Cheap and shipping is pretty quick. http://www.kazumapower.com/electrica...c-398_299.html
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05-11-2016, 09:19 PM	#15
w0ss Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 231	While I was waiting for my friend and his multimeter I took the bike for a spin. It popped a fuse. I think it's the blinker. I noticed it comes on but doesn't blink and both times the fuse popped I was using the blinker. I also noticed the brake light does not come on when the front or back brakes are applied. ok solenoid was not the issue it was the switch. I had no continuity at the harness behind the headlight. I disassembled it and then it worked. I fiddled with it but no matter what position it worked fine. I put it back in and so far it is working. Any ideas on the blinker/brake light? It got dark so figured I would ask before I go back at it tomorrow.
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