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Old 03-18-2016, 04:32 PM   #1
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Cheap chinese screws.

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So yesterday I was changing the brake fluid to try and increase the typing power of the front brake that seems weak to me and while trying to remove the cover one of the screw he's stripped. I ended up drilling the head off and now the threads are stuck down in the brake. I do not really want to mess with drilling it out and possibly re tapping it so does anyone see a reason this part wouldn't work.

http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Moto...aster+cylinder
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:13 PM   #2
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Yep... Some of them are good, some are made of a butter-like substance. I have one buried in my X-Moto's fork where the mud guard is supposed to live. Good luck.... Hopefully you can get a tiny pick and spin it out.
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Old 03-18-2016, 06:17 PM   #3
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I can't help with the brake reservoir, but I am curious if the screw heads on the Chinese bikes are JIS screws.

They look like phillips head but aren't.

It's very common for them to strip out on Japanese bikes, like my TW200 and DR650.

Does anyone know if they are the JIS screws?

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Old 03-18-2016, 07:28 PM   #4
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Next time try these "Made in the USA" and they actually WORK!!!

Alden Grabit Pro Micro http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000Q60UOO



They work great

I got mine in locally for about $14 with tax found them at a Menards or HomeDepot type store
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Old 03-19-2016, 04:31 AM   #5
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I tried an extraction bit it just kept striping
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Old 03-19-2016, 08:43 AM   #6
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As stated above ,probably jis screws and yes some are made with butter .Get a jis bit set and always try them first .


 
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Old 03-19-2016, 09:06 AM   #7
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...Get a jis bit set and always try them first .
https://escapements.wordpress.com/20...ewed-in-japan/
Try drywall bits / grind the tip IF don't pays ransom to Japanese ...
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Old 03-19-2016, 10:02 AM   #8
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Cheap Available Parts

Ya know....the one upside of this whole problem is that parts are dirt cheap and readily available on places such as Amazon now. I've been doing a bunch of nosing around since the TT250 is coming and it's amazing to me what's now available on "main stream" sites for our bikes that was never there before. Boatloads of parts....dirt cheap, compared to if we had to walk into a Japanese dealership and purchase over the counter.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
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Old 03-19-2016, 10:22 AM   #9
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Ya know....the one upside of this whole problem is that parts are dirt cheap and readily available on places such as Amazon now. I've been doing a bunch of nosing around since the TT250 is coming and it's amazing to me what's now available on "main stream" sites for our bikes that was never there before. Boatloads of parts....dirt cheap, compared to if we had to walk into a Japanese dealership and purchase over the counter.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
Wow, your right , you entered Chinese motorcycle brake parts and a wealth of choices came up. even the "I m cool ,look at Mr skull , boy racer parts" ! Are we done with the skulls yet?
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Old 03-19-2016, 12:41 PM   #10
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The cheap screwdriver bit in the tool set fits much better than any "quality" Phillips bit, simply because the screws have JIS slots.
It's like Pozidrive and Phillips.

I've got a HOZAN JIS scredriver set: http://www.amazon.com/Hozan-JIS-4-JI.../dp/B00A7WAHTU


 
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Old 03-20-2016, 09:50 AM   #11
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For the jap screws I grind the very point off the screw driver so the tip goes deeper in the screw, works for me!


 
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:17 PM   #12
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For the jap screws I grind the very point off the screw driver so the tip goes deeper in the screw, works for me!
Yeah when it first tasted stripping I tried hammering the screwdriver in and even the old duct tape trick but it just shredded the screw anyway.
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Old 03-20-2016, 03:30 PM   #13
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The shape of the jap screws are different. Once they start stripping there is not much that can be done. All you have to do to see what I am talking about is to take a unmolested screw in your fingers and set it on a philips tip, on the sides you will be able to see they are not fully engaging each other. If you remove the very point the sides will get contact.


 
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Old 03-21-2016, 12:47 PM   #14
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If I can't get a screw out with an extractor or other means I drill it out and use a tap a die set so that I use a normal screw with a normal pitch. What do you have to loose? Some of these Chinese screws have the strangest pitches and finding a replacement screw is making one. You can go down that route but the next time your in the same place. The kit you linked to should work and It's coming from China. If you want some more style. http://www.ebay.com/itm/182009317036


 
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Old 03-21-2016, 02:55 PM   #15
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If I can't get a screw out with an extractor or other means I drill it out and use a tap a die set so that I use a normal screw with a normal pitch. What do you have to loose? Some of these Chinese screws have the strangest pitches and finding a replacement screw is making one. You can go down that route but the next time your in the same place. The kit you linked to should work and It's coming from China. If you want some more style. http://www.ebay.com/itm/182009317036
Yeah I wanted to get rid of the screw on style reservoir. I have had problems with the screws on almost all my bikes and the jis screw makes sense but I'd rather just have the cap like on the rear brake. I like the ones you posted and they are cheaper unfortunately I already bought some from banggood the only plus is they have an aluminum cap.
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