electric start problems

overlander · 10-29-2013, 08:31 PM

My bike's electric start has started playing up, sometimes won't fire. I thought it might have been a fouled plug, but still happening with a new plug. Waiting on a service to get the valve's checked ( for the first time) 1800km on the clock. Can anyone suggest other remedies?

SpudRider · 10-29-2013, 11:33 PM

Please remind us. What model bike do you own?

Yster perd · 10-30-2013, 12:16 AM

I had the same problem. I tried a new battery, doubling up the earth wire, and then I took the starter motor off. The chinese bikes have permanent field magnets and the stator in mine was very rough so I sanded it down smooth with an orbital sander, lubricated it with a teflon based thin oil and voila! No more starting problems Gomoto starts with the first press of the starter button even at 0 deg C

overlander · 10-30-2013, 01:28 AM

I have a skyteam v-raptor 250, motor based on a honda CRF230

Weldangrind · 10-30-2013, 01:47 AM

It sounds like you're saying that the starter works properly, so I'd certainly adjust the valves. They're almost always too tight from the factory.

Krasi_BG · 10-30-2013, 03:46 AM

If the starter is cranking the engine, but the later is not firing up, then it's not a started problem, but rather fuel (i.e. carburetor or valves), or electrical (i.e. plugs, CDI, coil, etc.).

overlander · 10-30-2013, 07:31 AM

when I try to start it now, I press the button and just get a click sound. I kick start it, run it for a bit, then if it stalls again, the starter button will work.

Thanks for all suggestions

Krasi_BG · 10-30-2013, 10:14 AM

Your battery is dead (most probably!). Try charging it overnight and possibly replacing it.

If not, you may have alternator or rectifier failure (not very likely). You have to measure voltage level at battery connectors while the engine is running.

The least probable cause is to have a current leak somewhere which discharges the battery while engine is not running. It happened to me twice - 1) I accidentally left the parking light on when locking the steering; and b) I forgot the ignition key on ON position overnight.

katoranger · 10-30-2013, 10:22 AM

I think it time to have the battery tested. Also make sure the connections are tight. If its the stock china battery its likely dying.

Weldangrind · 10-30-2013, 10:27 AM

X3 on the battery. Is your bike equipped with an alarm? I don't trust them to not drain the battery.

stellio78 · 11-03-2013, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overlander

Waiting on a service to get the valve's checked ( for the first time) 1800km on the clock.

What happened with the 150 km & 1000 km valve check?

Did you get it sorted, is she up and running?

10-29-2013, 08:31 PM	#1
overlander Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 61	electric start problems My bike's electric start has started playing up, sometimes won't fire. I thought it might have been a fouled plug, but still happening with a new plug. Waiting on a service to get the valve's checked ( for the first time) 1800km on the clock. Can anyone suggest other remedies?
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10-29-2013, 11:33 PM	#2
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Please remind us. What model bike do you own? __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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10-30-2013, 01:47 AM	#5
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	It sounds like you're saying that the starter works properly, so I'd certainly adjust the valves. They're almost always too tight from the factory. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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10-30-2013, 10:22 AM	#9
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I think it time to have the battery tested. Also make sure the connections are tight. If its the stock china battery its likely dying. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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10-30-2013, 10:27 AM	#10
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	X3 on the battery. Is your bike equipped with an alarm? I don't trust them to not drain the battery. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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10-30-2013, 12:16 AM	#3
Yster perd Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 21	I had the same problem. I tried a new battery, doubling up the earth wire, and then I took the starter motor off. The chinese bikes have permanent field magnets and the stator in mine was very rough so I sanded it down smooth with an orbital sander, lubricated it with a teflon based thin oil and voila! No more starting problems Gomoto starts with the first press of the starter button even at 0 deg C
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10-30-2013, 01:28 AM	#4
overlander Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 61	I have a skyteam v-raptor 250, motor based on a honda CRF230
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10-30-2013, 03:46 AM	#6
Krasi_BG Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 436	If the starter is cranking the engine, but the later is not firing up, then it's not a started problem, but rather fuel (i.e. carburetor or valves), or electrical (i.e. plugs, CDI, coil, etc.).
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10-30-2013, 07:31 AM	#7
overlander Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 61	when I try to start it now, I press the button and just get a click sound. I kick start it, run it for a bit, then if it stalls again, the starter button will work. Thanks for all suggestions
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10-30-2013, 10:14 AM	#8
Krasi_BG Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 436	Your battery is dead (most probably!). Try charging it overnight and possibly replacing it. If not, you may have alternator or rectifier failure (not very likely). You have to measure voltage level at battery connectors while the engine is running. The least probable cause is to have a current leak somewhere which discharges the battery while engine is not running. It happened to me twice - 1) I accidentally left the parking light on when locking the steering; and b) I forgot the ignition key on ON position overnight.
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