Solenoid failure

TheLoneRoger · 08-04-2014, 01:51 PM

The solenoid blew on my LF200GY-2 a few weeks ago; I managed to get a replacement, which worked for a week or so, then that one went - what might cause a repeated solenoid failure?
Unfortunately, this has coincided with a flare-up of an old knee injury, so kick-starting is a rather painful option...

09Fx200Q · 08-04-2014, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLoneRoger

The solenoid blew on my LF200GY-2 a few weeks ago; I managed to get a replacement, which worked for a week or so, then that one went - what might cause a repeated solenoid failure?
Unfortunately, this has coincided with a flare-up of an old knee injury, so kick-starting is a rather painful option...

Could have just been a bad solenoid replacement ? Happens some times, same thing happened to me on my lawn mower and the third time was a charm.

culcune · 08-04-2014, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLoneRoger

The solenoid blew on my LF200GY-2 a few weeks ago; I managed to get a replacement, which worked for a week or so, then that one went - what might cause a repeated solenoid failure?
Unfortunately, this has coincided with a flare-up of an old knee injury, so kick-starting is a rather painful option...

I have had issues with the bolts holding the relay down being too loose on my bike. But I have had to replace mine once or twice on my old bike. On my new bike, it was giving me problems with starting (just making a clicking sound when I pushed the electric starter) and I took my seat off, and found the nuts a little loose. Tightened them down and the bike started right up!

Weldangrind · 08-05-2014, 02:04 AM

[QUOTE=TheLoneRoger;170504]what might cause a repeated solenoid failure?[QUOTE]

The only thing I can think of is high current draw. If the starter took excessive current to spin it, that could take out the solenoid. Battery voltage that is too low would also result in increased current draw, but you'd notice that with very slow cranking.

Holding the starter button on too long could also kill the solenoid.

I'm betting that you just got a bad one.

TheLoneRoger · 08-14-2014, 05:56 AM

Thanks for your replies.
The starter was turning just fine and I never had to crank it for long to get it started. Just one day working, the next not, in both cases.
Guess I'll just go for a replacement and cross my fingers...
(funny thing - for years I thought an electric starter had no place on a dirt bike, now I actually miss it!)

Weldangrind · 08-16-2014, 12:15 AM

I love the magic button. It is especially useful if the engine stalls at an intersection, like with a new rider.

SpudRider · 08-16-2014, 01:42 AM

I won't own a bike without the 'magic button."

Indeed, one is much safer riding on the street with an electric starter.

katoranger · 08-16-2014, 11:42 AM

My first car was bought cheap due to no start. The problem was someone didn't tighten the nut on the solenoid.

China solenoids have been bad out of the box.

TheLoneRoger · 09-06-2014, 11:32 AM

Just fitted a new one and it blew straight away :(
Any suggestions?

Weldangrind · 09-06-2014, 02:29 PM

The solenoid failed immediately? If so, has the wiring been tampered with at all?

If the wiring is in good order, perhaps the starter is the problem. They're certainly cheap enough to replace.

TheLoneRoger · 09-06-2014, 03:45 PM

The wiring looks to be good. I did find one place where it could have been shorting, but i replaced that when I changed the solenoid. I'll see if I can source a starter, thanks.

humanbeing · 09-06-2014, 06:50 PM

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...I'll see if I can source a starter, thanks.

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08-04-2014, 01:51 PM	#1
TheLoneRoger Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 24	Solenoid failure The solenoid blew on my LF200GY-2 a few weeks ago; I managed to get a replacement, which worked for a week or so, then that one went - what might cause a repeated solenoid failure? Unfortunately, this has coincided with a flare-up of an old knee injury, so kick-starting is a rather painful option...
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Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	[QUOTE=TheLoneRoger;170504]what might cause a repeated solenoid failure?[QUOTE] The only thing I can think of is high current draw. If the starter took excessive current to spin it, that could take out the solenoid. Battery voltage that is too low would also result in increased current draw, but you'd notice that with very slow cranking. Holding the starter button on too long could also kill the solenoid. I'm betting that you just got a bad one. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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08-16-2014, 12:15 AM	#6
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I love the magic button. It is especially useful if the engine stalls at an intersection, like with a new rider. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	I won't own a bike without the 'magic button." Indeed, one is much safer riding on the street with an electric starter. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	My first car was bought cheap due to no start. The problem was someone didn't tighten the nut on the solenoid. China solenoids have been bad out of the box. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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08-14-2014, 05:56 AM	#5
TheLoneRoger Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 24	Thanks for your replies. The starter was turning just fine and I never had to crank it for long to get it started. Just one day working, the next not, in both cases. Guess I'll just go for a replacement and cross my fingers... (funny thing - for years I thought an electric starter had no place on a dirt bike, now I actually miss it!)
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09-06-2014, 11:32 AM	#9
TheLoneRoger Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 24	Just fitted a new one and it blew straight away :( Any suggestions?
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09-06-2014, 02:29 PM	#10
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	The solenoid failed immediately? If so, has the wiring been tampered with at all? If the wiring is in good order, perhaps the starter is the problem. They're certainly cheap enough to replace. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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09-06-2014, 03:45 PM	#11
TheLoneRoger Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 24	The wiring looks to be good. I did find one place where it could have been shorting, but i replaced that when I changed the solenoid. I'll see if I can source a starter, thanks.
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