The Zongshen TT 250 is Coming

[Adjuster]

Spud did they give you a 'for sale' date or prediction?



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[SpudRider]

The TT Special bikes will probably be arriving before springtime next year.

[dpl096]

The SSR XF-250 is a great looking bike but I'm told here in the people's republic of Illinois you can't get one titled and registered for street use . . . What's funny is I started out wanting a great inexpensive dual sport and while doing my research on it is how I came across the RX3. . Now I'm anxious to hear/see more on the TT.

[Weldangrind]

X2. I'm curious to learn the actual displacement.

I wanted to be wrong. I was hoping that parts existed to make a CG-based air cooled 250.

[Adjuster]

The TT has to be below $2,000.00 or they won't sell any. Too many other choices out there well below $2,000.00. But at this point its just guessing. Heck it could be a $500.00 motorcycle, maybe CSC is getting a great deal on them.



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[trailrider]

Originally Posted by Adjuster

The TT has to be below $2,000.00 or they won't sell any. Too many other choices out there well below $2,000.00. But at this point its just guessing. Heck it could be a $500.00 motorcycle, maybe CSC is getting a great deal on them.

Adjuster,
What do you think of the pricing of the TT250 now that it has been announced by CSC?
Do you think they'll sell well at $2495.00?
(The regular price, not introductory)

[Lee R]

I like the TT and was all ready to get one but 2495 plus shipping puts it right into the Suzuki DR200 price range. Even at the don't miss the boat sale price with the 700 extra for assembly and shipping its too close to the Suzuki. Dr200s are easy to find for around 3000-3500 new or 2000-2500 with low mileage.

[ripcuda]

Sweet! An upgraded Hawk with all the best features, Zong-made fit 'n finish, and CSC support. Around $2k should be a winner.

Wonder what sprockets they'll come with out-of-the-box.

Cheers!

[katoranger]

This has my attention. Maybe a Zong will be in my future. I can ride gravel to work.

[2LZ]

This does look really nice and the Hondanoid motors have certainly proven themselves as extremely durable. I really do hope that they don't price it up with the SSR bikes. The SSR bikes have really jumped a lot of $$$ since they were marketed as Q Links and Konkers, even for their 200cc.

[jjn]

There's some dealer on Oahu selling the SSR 250 dual sport for $3700.

[SpudRider]

Originally Posted by culcune

...I do hope that CSC take their RX3 bike into account and do not try to price the TT near that level of pricing to compete with SSR and their XF250's.

Originally Posted by 2LZ

This does look really nice and the Hondanoid motors have certainly proven themselves as extremely durable. I really do hope that they don't price it up with the SSR bikes. The SSR bikes have really jumped a lot of $$$ since they were marketed as Q Links and Konkers, even for their 200cc.

I'm pretty confident the TT Special bikes won't be priced anywhere near as expensive as the SSR bikes.

[pismocycleguy]

Originally Posted by 2LZ

This does look really nice and the Hondanoid motors have certainly proven themselves as extremely durable.

I'm new to Chinese bikes and not familiar with the lingo. So are some of the engines that Zongshen manufactures knock offs (Hondanoids) of Honda singles? Are the engines in the RX-3 Cyclone and the TT 250 also knock offs of Honda's?
Can you tell me from which Honda model of bikes did these two engines originate?
Thanks for any answers you can provide. It will help me in my future search and purchase a CB.

[SpudRider]

Originally Posted by pismocycleguy

I'm new to Chinese bikes and not familiar with the lingo. So are some of the engines that Zongshen manufactures knock offs (Hondanoids) of Honda singles? Are the engines in the RX-3 Cyclone and the TT 250 also knock offs of Honda's?
Can you tell me from which Honda model of bikes did these two engines originate?
Thanks for any answers you can provide. It will help me in my future search and purchase a CB.

Most Chinese engines are copies of old Honda engines. However, there are exceptions. Zongshen manufactures 4-5 million engines a year, and most of these engines are copies of Honda engines. However, my Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra) employs a copy of a Yamaha engine, which is virtually identical to the currently manufactured, TW200 engine. Qingqi manufactures copies of Suzuki engines.

The ZS177MM (NC250) engine in the Zongshen RX3 is a new design, which was commissioned from an Italian firm. Of course, this engine is manufactured in Chongqing, by Zongshen.

Chinese motorcycles with copies of Honda engines are called Hondoids. Most Chinese motorcycles are Hondoids. The Zongshen Sierra, Zongshen RX3, Qingqi/QLink/Konker, and SSR bikes are exceptions.

[pismocycleguy]

Originally Posted by SpudRider

Most Chinese engines are copies of old Honda engines. However, there are exceptions.

The ZS177MM (NC250) engine in the Zongshen RX3 is a new design, which was commissioned from an Italian firm. Of course, this engine is manufactured in Chongqing, by Zongshen.

Good information regarding the RX3 engine. So Zongshen after completing the commissioned mfg. job for an Italian company, borrowed the design for their RX3 bike's engine, if I understand you correctly.
Or did Zongshen pay an Italian design company to design and develop a modern engine for the current RX3 bike?
How many years do you think Zongshen has been building and utilizing this engine?