Enforcer on Order!

[Skiforce75]

Well, I decided on an Enforcer rather than a Storm. Many reasons and I took dozens of analytical looks at the two. It really came down to anticipated usage and the bulletproof nature of the non-ballanced 250cc engine.

I have a new chain, Shinko 244 tires, & ultra heavy duty tubes on order. I won't get it all until I get back home from military TDY at the end of Jan but I can't wait to get started!

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by Skiforce75

Well, I decided on an Enforcer rather than a Storm. Many reasons and I took dozens of analytical looks at the two. It really came down to anticipated usage and the bulletproof nature of the non-ballanced 250cc engine.

I have a new chain, Shinko 244 tires, & ultra heavy duty tubes on order. I won't get it all until I get back home from military TDY at the end of Jan but I can't wait to get started!

Excellent choice. Basically the Hawks brother lol. By the time you get back, I forsee even more parts waiting for you lol

[culcune]

Ever since Bashans started proving themselves as quality machines, starting with the Storm 250 about 3 or 4 years back, and continuing with the Brozz and Shark, and then the Enforcer, I really think people would do better getting an Enforcer over the Hawk. Yes, my opinion, and I cannot dismiss how well sorted out the Hawks have become thanks to this forum and Motocheez's youtube videos (Megadan, your advice has become worth near gold on the subject of Hawks). Part of my opinion is I would prefer street gearing as stock, and moving to off-road if I chose, and the Enforcer is right there with that.

[Cheapo_ChiRi]

I have never heard of the Enforcer yet! Does anyone know what the differences is between this and the Hawk 250? They look quite similar from my limited research so far.

Very curious to learn about any differences between the Enforcer and Hawk.

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by culcune

Ever since Bashans started proving themselves as quality machines, starting with the Storm 250 about 3 or 4 years back, and continuing with the Brozz and Shark, and then the Enforcer, I really think people would do better getting an Enforcer over the Hawk. Yes, my opinion, and I cannot dismiss how well sorted out the Hawks have become thanks to this forum and Motocheez's youtube videos (Megadan, your advice has become worth near gold on the subject of Hawks). Part of my opinion is I would prefer street gearing as stock, and moving to off-road if I chose, and the Enforcer is right there with that.

I had a chance to play around with a new Enforcer recently. Material quality wise, you couldn't tell the difference between the two. I think they will likely have better "out of the crate" quality, but not by much. They share most of the same parts.

I do agree that the 17/46 gearing out of the box and better carb tuning is a nice touch. That covers 2 of the biggest upgrades most Hawk owners make. I would still take all of the same precautions in terms of loctite and lubrication though.

If I had to choose between the two, it would simply come down to what I got the better deal on. However, that opinion is entirely formed on the idea that I will never ever leave a bike stock lol.

I see it this way. Out of the box, no mods, I would likely buy an Enforcer. The Enforcer is what the Hawk should be when new. The second you start doing mods, the difference between the two is non-existent, or at least so minimal you would be hard pressed to tell the difference.

The real question I have is, will the Enforcers suffer from some of the same quirks like the Hawk? Rear sprocket/stud issues. Speedo drive/cable issues. etc. Trying to compare the quality of the two is hard to do given the sample size difference. There are a ton of Hawk owners, but only a few Enforcer owners at this point.

[Skiforce75]

Originally Posted by Megadan

Trying to compare the quality of the two is hard to do given the sample size difference. There are a ton of Hawk owners, but only a few Enforcer owners at this point.

Well, I am glad to be joining the sample size of Enforcer owners. I will try to take good notes and pictures as I build it and ride it.

[Skiforce75]

Originally Posted by Megadan

Excellent choice. Basically the Hawks brother lol. By the time you get back, I forsee even more parts waiting for you lol

The only thing I can see needing is the ability to tune the carb. I am waiting to see what the carburetor and the Jets look like before I order anything. Eventually I may replace the speedometer as well. I'm not too worried about the mileage being off since the resale value on these bikes is not really high anyway. Oh yeah, maybe some LED running lights! I guess you're right.

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by Skiforce75

The only thing I can see needing is the ability to tune the carb. I am waiting to see what the carburetor and the Jets look like before I order anything. Eventually I may replace the speedometer as well. I'm not too worried about the mileage being off since the resale value on these bikes is not really high anyway. Oh yeah, maybe some LED running lights! I guess you're right.

AFAIK, the stock Bashan carb tuning is a lot better than the Hawk's. As far as the jetting, I don't know about the enforcer, but I believe the Brozz comes with a slow/pilot jet that can actually be changed. The main reason so many Hawk owners switch to the Mikuni is due to the goofy unique pilot jet of the Hawk carb, and the too lean main jet.

As far as the speedometer goes, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Digital Speedo and Tach cluster for the Hawks worked on the enforcers with no mods/changes needed. So that is something to consider. I didn't upgrade mine for accurate mileage on the odometer. I got mine for an accurate speedometer lol.

[Skiforce75]

Originally Posted by Megadan

As far as the speedometer goes, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Digital Speedo and Tach cluster for the Hawks worked on the enforcers with no mods/changes needed. So that is something to consider. I didn't upgrade mine for accurate mileage on the odometer. I got mine for an accurate speedometer lol.

According to this forum, the hawk speedo works just fine. I just don't have $95 right now and I could not care less to have a tach. I have a car that is 10% off on the speedo and I have always just done the math.

So, the speedo is not a priority in any way.

[Megadan]

Originally Posted by Skiforce75

According to this forum, the hawk speedo works just fine. I just don't have $95 right now and I could not care less to have a tach. I jave a car that is 10% off on the speedo and I have always just done the math.

So, the speedo is not a priority in any way.

I also wanted a tach. That was the other big selling factor for me. Average Hawk speedometer is around 13% off. This speedo is less than 1% off at 60mph. It makes tracking improvements from upgrades or mods much easier, as does the tachometer.

It's all personal preference. If you can live without it, then rock what you got!

[pistolclass]

Had the Enforcer been around when I bought my Hawk I probably would have chosen it over the Hawk just because of the NHTSA sticker. in CT it would have made registering it easier.

As far as resale, to my amazement folks have sold well sorted out hawks for more than the $1,300 new mark.

BTW thank you for your service, hopefully your TDY didn't take you too far or too long from home.

[Skiforce75]

I paid off my order and was told that I should be getting a tracking number relatively soon. Hopefully today or tomorrow. We'll see how long this takes. I am in Las Vegas so the shipping from California should be rather quick.

[ben2go]

Originally Posted by Skiforce75

I paid off my order and was told that I should be getting a tracking number relatively soon. Hopefully today or tomorrow. We'll see how long this takes. I am in Las Vegas so the shipping from California should be rather quick.

Where did you order your Enforcer from?

[Skiforce75]

APSC. Don has been great so far. I hope for good things.

[ben2go]

Things got a little dicey with them last year. I hope it works out.