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Thumper · 07-07-2022, 04:02 PM

Check out the Templar 250. Full sized Enduro with a ZS 249cc 19hp engine. Heavy duty inverted forks. Not adjustable like my Templar X, but that X is not available at the moment. I had good transaction with powersportsmax. They seem related to XPro somehow, but based on CA. The Templar is made by Zuumav, new to US market but not a new dirt bike builder.

Thumper · 07-07-2022, 04:05 PM

Templar 250 is available in lime green! Oh that ZS engine mil is on the KPX Jerry got. Different variant (5 speed) but same block. It's a great engine. 172FMM-3A is on the Templar. Also gets a nice stainless steel exhaust system, 520 chain, big bear claw pegs, short shifter with folding tip, effortless twisting roller throttle assy.

**JerryHawk250** · 07-07-2022, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumper

Templar 250 is available in line green! Oh that ZS engine mil is on the KPX Jerry got. Different variant (5 speed) but same block. It's a great engine. 172FMM-3A is on the Templars. Also gets a nice stainless steel exhaust system, big bear claw pegs, short shifter with folding tip, effortless twisting roller throttle assy.

They are similar but Is that engine counterbalanced?

Thumper · 07-07-2022, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

They are similar but Is that engine counterbalanced?

I think so. My -3A is a smooth runner. Lots of willing torque too!

**JerryHawk250** · 07-07-2022, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumper

I think so. My -3A is a smooth runner. Lots of willing torque too!

I just checked the specifications for the 172FMM-3A Zongshen engine. It's a non counterbalanced engine. Still a good engine though.

letsride · 07-07-2022, 06:38 PM

So the motor in the KPX IS counter balanced? From your video it doesn't have the bump on the bottom end like a counter balanced CG would.

Thumper · 07-07-2022, 06:51 PM

The 172FMM-3A was OEM on KAYO 250 and GPX FSE250R. These are expensive bikes.
https://www.advrider.com/f/threads/2...364671/page-14
That is a long thread by the way. Lots of chatter about the 172FMM
Here is the 3A:
172FMM-3A

Here is a thread (this site) on this topic, kind of...
https://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=29431

It is a great engine. I love it! My Templar X is easily competitive with those expensive bikes. I wonder if powersportsmax will have them in stock again?
The Templar 250 is made by Zuumav too, and it has most of the key components at a great price! Where did you find those specs Jerry?

Emerikol · 07-07-2022, 07:45 PM

Do you have a link to the KPX? I can't seem to find anything on it.

Thumper · 07-07-2022, 08:05 PM

KPX...
Check in this thread

https://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=31083

**JerryHawk250** · 07-07-2022, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by letsride

So the motor in the KPX IS counter balanced? From your video it doesn't have the bump on the bottom end like a counter balanced CG would.

Yes it is. If you look in my KPX thread you will see in the engine parts list were the counter balance is located. It doesn't stick out as far as on the CG engine. It also has a regular oil filter and not just the screen

KSSK · 07-07-2022, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by letsride

Why would I want a bike I have to work on? Isn't that half the fun? Besides I have a brand new Exhaust in my shed still in the box that I never put on my last Brozz. I also have various other crap like jets, rebuild kits, etc. So, WHAT to do is the question?

It depends what kind of tinkering you want to do.

I went with the X-Pect because I wanted EFI. I'm sick of messing with carbs. There's still plenty to tinker with on an EFI bike. Forks, chain, sprockets, tires, etc. I've done plenty of work on it. I just don't have to mess with it to make it run right. I put in gas and go.

If you want to tinker with carbs and you love that, go for a carb'd bike like the Brozz.

If you want a bike that just works and you can tinker with other parts of it, go with an EFI bike.

Had I known the KPX 250 was coming out, I would not have bought my X-Pect and waited for it. It's a big upgrade over the X-Pect.

Megadan · 07-08-2022, 12:44 AM

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I liked the simple fact that I didn't have to do a single mod to do a quick ride on the interstate from exit to exit and ran 70+ mph comfortably. It took a good bit of mods on the Hawk to do that and wasn't comfortable at all.

That definitely has my attention. I know I am quite a bit bigger than you so I may not see quite the same top end, but I know what my Hawk can do vs. Yours with similar setups, and I think I can translate that over. Now I just need to get my life settled before I make a financial leap like that.

letsride · 07-08-2022, 11:29 AM

I just Completed the order for the KPX. Now my impatient self has to wait for the truck to show up! Thank you all for the suggestions and Thanks to Jerry for helping empty my wallet! LOL.

**JerryHawk250** · 07-08-2022, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by letsride

I just Completed the order for the KPX. Now my impatient self has to wait for the truck to show up! Thank you all for the suggestions and Thanks to Jerry for helping empty my wallet! LOL.

The pleasure was all mine.

If the old lady give you any lip you just blame it on me.

letsride · 07-08-2022, 11:48 AM

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The pleasure was all mine.

If the old lady give you any lip you just blame it on me.

I'll tell her that I caved to your immense peer pressure.

07-07-2022, 04:05 PM	#17
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,317	Templar 250 is available in lime green! Oh that ZS engine mil is on the KPX Jerry got. Different variant (5 speed) but same block. It's a great engine. 172FMM-3A is on the Templar. Also gets a nice stainless steel exhaust system, 520 chain, big bear claw pegs, short shifter with folding tip, effortless twisting roller throttle assy. Last edited by Thumper; 07-07-2022 at 05:20 PM.
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07-07-2022, 06:38 PM	#21
letsride Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 832	So the motor in the KPX IS counter balanced? From your video it doesn't have the bump on the bottom end like a counter balanced CG would. __________________ My Stable- 2022 Lifan KPX250 , 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan, 1992 Honda GL1500 Goldwing, SSR 70 Auto, Kymco Mongoose 90, Honda Four Trax 300
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07-07-2022, 07:45 PM	#23
Emerikol Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Carrollton, GA Posts: 1,465	Do you have a link to the KPX? I can't seem to find anything on it. __________________ First Rule of Aviation: -Never Pass Up The Opportunity to Pee I was struggling to get my wife's attention; I sat down on the couch and looked comfortable. That did the trick! My wife says I only have two faults. I don't listen and something else... If at first you don't succeed, try doing it the way I told you to... The Stable: 2005 Yamaha V-Star 650 - SOLD 2015 Suzuki DR 650 2015 RPS Hawk 250 - SOLD 2016 Ural Gear Up
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07-08-2022, 11:29 AM	#28
letsride Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 832	I just Completed the order for the KPX. Now my impatient self has to wait for the truck to show up! Thank you all for the suggestions and Thanks to Jerry for helping empty my wallet! LOL. __________________ My Stable- 2022 Lifan KPX250 , 2023 Royal Enfield Himalayan, 1992 Honda GL1500 Goldwing, SSR 70 Auto, Kymco Mongoose 90, Honda Four Trax 300 Last edited by letsride; 07-08-2022 at 11:30 AM. Reason: spelling
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07-07-2022, 04:02 PM	#16
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,317	Check out the Templar 250. Full sized Enduro with a ZS 249cc 19hp engine. Heavy duty inverted forks. Not adjustable like my Templar X, but that X is not available at the moment. I had good transaction with powersportsmax. They seem related to XPro somehow, but based on CA. The Templar is made by Zuumav, new to US market but not a new dirt bike builder.
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07-07-2022, 06:51 PM	#22
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,317	The 172FMM-3A was OEM on KAYO 250 and GPX FSE250R. These are expensive bikes. https://www.advrider.com/f/threads/2...364671/page-14 That is a long thread by the way. Lots of chatter about the 172FMM Here is the 3A: 172FMM-3A Here is a thread (this site) on this topic, kind of... https://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=29431 It is a great engine. I love it! My Templar X is easily competitive with those expensive bikes. I wonder if powersportsmax will have them in stock again? The Templar 250 is made by Zuumav too, and it has most of the key components at a great price! Where did you find those specs Jerry?
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07-07-2022, 08:05 PM	#24
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,317	KPX... Check in this thread https://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=31083
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