How to order aftermarket things for the Xpect?

Boatguy · 03-14-2022, 11:20 AM

So through my previous years of motorcycle and three wheeler ownership, I just went to the dealer and got the parts I needed.

Now I have the xpect and there is a dealer parts site at kpmotoclub but everybody here seems to be upgrading from stock, so I want to do the same with some stuff that might need replacing in my 6000 km service.

Tires and tubes are few and far between in the odd size.

How do I order a new chain and sprockets?

I think I may put on the guards for the levers.

Is there a way to know which parts will fit your bike BEFORE ordering them?

Boatguy · 03-14-2022, 06:10 PM

Did I stump the forum? I didn’t think it was that hard of a question. Haven’t most of you ordered aftermarket chains and sprockets and stuff? How did you know it would fit?

Frank Hotdogs · 03-14-2022, 07:54 PM

Same question! I want new mirrors and a magnetic oil plug, which shouldn't be too hard to find, but I'm sure the time will come I'll want more than that.

franque · 03-15-2022, 03:29 AM

I personally didn't answer because these questions are pretty easily googled/found with a Google search of this site, and if you've owned a motorcycle before, the questions are pretty basic, even if you've only ever paid a dealer to find parts for you. Since you're asking though:

1. For the tires and tubes, what size are they? I doubt there as hard to find as you're convinced, at the very least something close in size could easily be found.

2. Measure your sprockets with some calipers, figure out what the Hawk uses (you'll have to search to find which one that is, I'm not wasting my time)... Then go to JT sprockets to confirm if it's the same size - worst case scenario you have to email or call them to find out what sprockets match the dimensions you've already measured. As for chain pitch and length, again, measure and count; if you're feeling generous, share what you're learned with the forum. If you're confused by what you're supposed to measure, simply go to JT's website and look at a random sprocket to determine what dimensions you need to measure.

3. Guards are simple, just get a universal kit, these don't have special handlebars, they're either 7/8" (most likely) or 1 1/8". Easy peasy.

4. Yes, buy a set of calipers and measure!

5. For the drain plug: measure the threads/thread pitch. This can be done with calipers if you Google the dimensions to look for, or you could go to FLAPS and compare with the drain plugs there in the replacement parts section. You might even be able to just buy a magnetic drain plug there.

6. Mirrors... the Chinese don't use too many sizes, so just take those calipers and measure again, and buy whatever size you need.

Boatguy · 03-15-2022, 09:47 AM

Look, I’m sorry I asked a basic question. I thought that’s what a forum is for. I’ve never owned a bike that didn’t have dealer support and high quality OEM parts before. This is my first time. How do you make such an insulting post saying that my question is not good enough for people to answer?

When you order parts for any vehicle, I don’t even care if we’re talking about cars or motorcycles, you give them the year and model number, and then all of the parts that fit become available for you to look at. That’s not the case with a Lifan xpect unless I’m going to order stock parts at kpmotoclub.

I have never bought a new chain before. I don’t know how to count and measure it. The last time I bought a new chain for a motorcycle, I went to the Honda dealership and told them what year and model bike I had, and they gave me new chains and sprockets.

What an insulting response that was.

I’m sorry I took up anyone’s precious time with a question on the forum. No wonder this place doesn’t have any activity. This is the welcome you get when you ask a basic question?

Not all of us can know every little thing. The purpose of a forum is to ask questions that you don’t know or answer questions that you do know.

China Rider 27 · 03-15-2022, 10:07 AM

Whoa...that's a little harsh there Boatguy. Franque answered your question and I don't think he was rude about it. I thought the same thing, you want us to look up everything up for you when all the information you seek is on the forum and you can look it up for yourself? I mean you found out how to find a new speedometer display for your bike right? All the information about what chain you need is in the Xpect Backroad post?

ChillRider · 03-15-2022, 10:09 AM

TBQH, owning a Chinabike means that you mostly forsake the convenience of a dealership network, and "perks" such as simply being able to order a part specified in a service/owner manual by its Part #. Same for aftermarket parts.

Now, that being said, most Chinabikes are usually a mishmash of parts copied from some major Japanese manufacturer's equivalents (e.g. engine, suspension, etc.). The tricky part is finding out exactly what the Chinese copied/sourced from where, and then going through the usual channels. Explaining that you need the parts for a "compatible" bike is optional.

If the part you need is indeed unique to your particular China bike (CDIs usually are, but other parts like speedo gears may fall into this case), then it's off to specialist places like china-parts.co.uk or even aliexpress.

Parts like chains, bearings, tires, tubes etc. are generic enough that you don't need a specialized shop, but perhaps some measuring or reading up on the correct dimensions/type before ordering. If you feel that's a handful, then perhaps owning a Chinabike is not for you.

XLsior · 03-15-2022, 10:29 AM

Ok so for tires you check the numbering on the current equipment or product information pamphlet then fin d your local/online motorcycle tire seller and use those numbers to search options applicable to your driving requirements.

Chains come in packet lengths based on the number of links. Because of sprocket ratios between the front and the back you may require more or less links...So typically you end up bying a longer length which might have to be cut down to suit.
types of chain gets more complicated.

The thing is these are Chinese bikes with limited dealer support and most aftermarket is purchased via amazon/eBay/aliexpress....requiring some amount of DIY or modification.

Most basic questions can be answered via the search menu option. So it's no so much stumping the forum.

Some veterans are just numb to repetition of the seemingly obvious.

I understand you would like some help but there is a difference between looking for help and expecting it.

China Rider 27 · 03-15-2022, 10:37 AM

Yaa, maybe this is just a search function issue. If you are looking for handguard say then put in the search box "Xpect handguards" or "xpect sprocket" and up will come the posts related to that issue and you should find valuable info. If that fails I suggest asking directly for what you want. When cached in vague terms it much harder to respoond. While back I made a post asking for Xpect handguards and no one replied. I figured they must not know or don't have time to respond so I searched on amazon found some and luckily they worked well. Many times it is trial by error on amazon or ebay unfortunately. Later when I have time I will post back the handguards I used which I think are outstanding.

Frank Hotdogs · 03-15-2022, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by China Rider 27

Whoa...that's a little harsh there Boatguy. Franque answered your question and I don't think he was rude about it. I thought the same thing, you want us to look up everything up for you when all the information you seek is on the forum and you can look it up for yourself? I mean you found out how to find a new speedometer display for your bike right? All the information about what chain you need is in the Xpect Backroad post?

I thought he was rude about it. Obviously I can bust out a microscope and start measuring exact dimensions of anything. The only reason one joins a forum like this is to pool information so if one person has already solved a problem, others can benefit. Asking a question and hearing "Go look it up for yourself, n00b" leaves a bad impression.

I'm out.

franque · 03-15-2022, 01:56 PM

I'll be honest, I didn't say it in the politest way possible, because he's not a noob, he's been here over a year and has over 400 posts.

Yes, pooling info is important, but if someone posted 400 times and had been around for a year and still didn't use the search function, all the information in the world won't help them. If he was truly new to the game, yeah, no big deal, most of us are quite happy to help out with basic stuff, and I've done my fair share of spoon feeding people info, but he seems to have some level of competence to where his questions are almost insulting his own intelligence.

To wit, he's been on the forum long enough to know basic things like using the search function. If we knew everything, and told everyone what we knew, nobody would learn anything.

I gave good, basic advice, so that the next bike he has to deal with, he won't need the umbilical support of the dealer, and he might be able to do something for himself.

It's the whole giving someone a fish vs teaching them to fish. If using the search function or some calipers are too much for someone, buying a Chinese bike might not be for them.

Boatguy · 03-15-2022, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XLsior

Ok so for tires you check the numbering on the current equipment or product information pamphlet then fin d your local/online motorcycle tire seller and use those numbers to search options applicable to your driving requirements.

Chains come in packet lengths based on the number of links. Because of sprocket ratios between the front and the back you may require more or less links...So typically you end up bying a longer length which might have to be cut down to suit.
types of chain gets more complicated.

The thing is these are Chinese bikes with limited dealer support and most aftermarket is purchased via amazon/eBay/aliexpress....requiring some amount of DIY or modification.

Most basic questions can be answered via the search menu option. So it's no so much stumping the forum.

Some veterans are just numb to repetition of the seemingly obvious.

I understand you would like some help but there is a difference between looking for help and expecting it.

Thank you. This is exactly what I was asking. How to do this. For some reason, everybody thinks I’m asking them to go buy me a chain or something. I don’t even know where to begin to find these parts. But I know I have seen things on here before where people have used Honda parts, or just grab parts off Amazon. I wasn’t really sure how to go about matching Honda parts with my motorcycle. And I wasn’t really sure about how it works when you buy a new chain.

It’s funny that posts are saying that they didn’t want to find the chain for me but want to teach a Man to Fish. That’s exactly what I’m asking. How to fish. It’s funny that posts are saying that they didn’t want to find the chain for me but want to teach a Man to Fish. That’s exactly what I’m asking. How to fish. I didn’t even know where to begin. Now I do thanks to your post. Thank you.

I may have 400 posts, a good background in a lot of things mechanical, I have reported on my bike plenty, participated in all sorts of conversations here. But this is the first time I’ve ever had any kind of motorized vehicle where I can’t just call out the year and the model and have a selection of parts ready. Other than KP Moto club.

And that’s where I bought my gauge set. How did I find them? I asked on the forum where people were getting parts like that for the bike. And someone showed me the link.

Makes no sense to get treated like this when you ask simple questions.

Frankly, I thought this was a nice little community of people. I’m really surprised. When I see someone ask a basic question, I help them out. If I can. I just don’t have experience with China bikes before. This is my first one.

Boatguy · 03-15-2022, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Hotdogs

I thought he was rude about it. Obviously I can bust out a microscope and start measuring exact dimensions of anything. The only reason one joins a forum like this is to pool information so if one person has already solved a problem, others can benefit. Asking a question and hearing "Go look it up for yourself, n00b" leaves a bad impression.

I'm out.

Exactly. That’s what a forum is for. It’s to ask questions and have people answer if they know. I answer plenty of questions. I also ask them when I don’t know something. That is literally what forms are for.

Do you have boat problems? Talk to me. I can literally build or solve anything on a boat. I’m just not a motorcycle expert when it comes to Chinese bikes.

China Rider 27 · 03-15-2022, 07:39 PM

Here is my answer for a chain. I suggest searching for a chain breaker and look up info on how to break a chain so you can shorten it. The sprockets are listed in a post here on the forum you can search.

https://www.amazon.com/JT-Drive-Chai...s%2C200&sr=8-2

XLsior · 03-15-2022, 07:49 PM

Most forum etiquette (not just this one) is search before inquire.

there is a wealth of information here...no one is getting paid to manage it.

What information is shared is time respected.

So going about it like the a book that should be opened for you before reading it and then pissing on the book afterwards because someone didn't find the page you were looking for is just as rude...no?

The forum community is not a pseudo dealership resource network.

03-14-2022, 11:20 AM	#1
Boatguy Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Northeast Posts: 929	How to order aftermarket things for the Xpect? So through my previous years of motorcycle and three wheeler ownership, I just went to the dealer and got the parts I needed. Now I have the xpect and there is a dealer parts site at kpmotoclub but everybody here seems to be upgrading from stock, so I want to do the same with some stuff that might need replacing in my 6000 km service. Tires and tubes are few and far between in the odd size. How do I order a new chain and sprockets? I think I may put on the guards for the levers. Is there a way to know which parts will fit your bike BEFORE ordering them? __________________ 2020 Lifan x-pect Last edited by Boatguy; 03-14-2022 at 02:36 PM.
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03-14-2022, 06:10 PM	#2
Boatguy Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Northeast Posts: 929	Did I stump the forum? I didn’t think it was that hard of a question. Haven’t most of you ordered aftermarket chains and sprockets and stuff? How did you know it would fit? __________________ 2020 Lifan x-pect
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03-15-2022, 09:47 AM	#5
Boatguy Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Northeast Posts: 929	Look, I’m sorry I asked a basic question. I thought that’s what a forum is for. I’ve never owned a bike that didn’t have dealer support and high quality OEM parts before. This is my first time. How do you make such an insulting post saying that my question is not good enough for people to answer? When you order parts for any vehicle, I don’t even care if we’re talking about cars or motorcycles, you give them the year and model number, and then all of the parts that fit become available for you to look at. That’s not the case with a Lifan xpect unless I’m going to order stock parts at kpmotoclub. I have never bought a new chain before. I don’t know how to count and measure it. The last time I bought a new chain for a motorcycle, I went to the Honda dealership and told them what year and model bike I had, and they gave me new chains and sprockets. What an insulting response that was. I’m sorry I took up anyone’s precious time with a question on the forum. No wonder this place doesn’t have any activity. This is the welcome you get when you ask a basic question? Not all of us can know every little thing. The purpose of a forum is to ask questions that you don’t know or answer questions that you do know. __________________ 2020 Lifan x-pect
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03-14-2022, 07:54 PM	#3
Frank Hotdogs Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: Missoula MT Posts: 37	Same question! I want new mirrors and a magnetic oil plug, which shouldn't be too hard to find, but I'm sure the time will come I'll want more than that.
	1

03-15-2022, 03:29 AM	#4
franque Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea Posts: 1,481	I personally didn't answer because these questions are pretty easily googled/found with a Google search of this site, and if you've owned a motorcycle before, the questions are pretty basic, even if you've only ever paid a dealer to find parts for you. Since you're asking though: 1. For the tires and tubes, what size are they? I doubt there as hard to find as you're convinced, at the very least something close in size could easily be found. 2. Measure your sprockets with some calipers, figure out what the Hawk uses (you'll have to search to find which one that is, I'm not wasting my time)... Then go to JT sprockets to confirm if it's the same size - worst case scenario you have to email or call them to find out what sprockets match the dimensions you've already measured. As for chain pitch and length, again, measure and count; if you're feeling generous, share what you're learned with the forum. If you're confused by what you're supposed to measure, simply go to JT's website and look at a random sprocket to determine what dimensions you need to measure. 3. Guards are simple, just get a universal kit, these don't have special handlebars, they're either 7/8" (most likely) or 1 1/8". Easy peasy. 4. Yes, buy a set of calipers and measure! 5. For the drain plug: measure the threads/thread pitch. This can be done with calipers if you Google the dimensions to look for, or you could go to FLAPS and compare with the drain plugs there in the replacement parts section. You might even be able to just buy a magnetic drain plug there. 6. Mirrors... the Chinese don't use too many sizes, so just take those calipers and measure again, and buy whatever size you need.
	3

03-15-2022, 10:07 AM	#6
China Rider 27 Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: PNW Posts: 982	Whoa...that's a little harsh there Boatguy. Franque answered your question and I don't think he was rude about it. I thought the same thing, you want us to look up everything up for you when all the information you seek is on the forum and you can look it up for yourself? I mean you found out how to find a new speedometer display for your bike right? All the information about what chain you need is in the Xpect Backroad post?
	0

03-15-2022, 10:09 AM	#7
ChillRider Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: A small country with a funny name Posts: 164	TBQH, owning a Chinabike means that you mostly forsake the convenience of a dealership network, and "perks" such as simply being able to order a part specified in a service/owner manual by its Part #. Same for aftermarket parts. Now, that being said, most Chinabikes are usually a mishmash of parts copied from some major Japanese manufacturer's equivalents (e.g. engine, suspension, etc.). The tricky part is finding out exactly what the Chinese copied/sourced from where, and then going through the usual channels. Explaining that you need the parts for a "compatible" bike is optional. If the part you need is indeed unique to your particular China bike (CDIs usually are, but other parts like speedo gears may fall into this case), then it's off to specialist places like china-parts.co.uk or even aliexpress. Parts like chains, bearings, tires, tubes etc. are generic enough that you don't need a specialized shop, but perhaps some measuring or reading up on the correct dimensions/type before ordering. If you feel that's a handful, then perhaps owning a Chinabike is not for you.
	1

03-15-2022, 10:29 AM	#8
XLsior Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Australia Posts: 1,293	Ok so for tires you check the numbering on the current equipment or product information pamphlet then fin d your local/online motorcycle tire seller and use those numbers to search options applicable to your driving requirements. Chains come in packet lengths based on the number of links. Because of sprocket ratios between the front and the back you may require more or less links...So typically you end up bying a longer length which might have to be cut down to suit. types of chain gets more complicated. The thing is these are Chinese bikes with limited dealer support and most aftermarket is purchased via amazon/eBay/aliexpress....requiring some amount of DIY or modification. Most basic questions can be answered via the search menu option. So it's no so much stumping the forum. Some veterans are just numb to repetition of the seemingly obvious. I understand you would like some help but there is a difference between looking for help and expecting it.
	1

03-15-2022, 10:37 AM	#9
China Rider 27 Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: PNW Posts: 982	Yaa, maybe this is just a search function issue. If you are looking for handguard say then put in the search box "Xpect handguards" or "xpect sprocket" and up will come the posts related to that issue and you should find valuable info. If that fails I suggest asking directly for what you want. When cached in vague terms it much harder to respoond. While back I made a post asking for Xpect handguards and no one replied. I figured they must not know or don't have time to respond so I searched on amazon found some and luckily they worked well. Many times it is trial by error on amazon or ebay unfortunately. Later when I have time I will post back the handguards I used which I think are outstanding.
	0

03-15-2022, 01:56 PM	#11
franque Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea Posts: 1,481	I'll be honest, I didn't say it in the politest way possible, because he's not a noob, he's been here over a year and has over 400 posts. Yes, pooling info is important, but if someone posted 400 times and had been around for a year and still didn't use the search function, all the information in the world won't help them. If he was truly new to the game, yeah, no big deal, most of us are quite happy to help out with basic stuff, and I've done my fair share of spoon feeding people info, but he seems to have some level of competence to where his questions are almost insulting his own intelligence. To wit, he's been on the forum long enough to know basic things like using the search function. If we knew everything, and told everyone what we knew, nobody would learn anything. I gave good, basic advice, so that the next bike he has to deal with, he won't need the umbilical support of the dealer, and he might be able to do something for himself. It's the whole giving someone a fish vs teaching them to fish. If using the search function or some calipers are too much for someone, buying a Chinese bike might not be for them.
	3

03-15-2022, 07:39 PM	#14
China Rider 27 Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: PNW Posts: 982	Here is my answer for a chain. I suggest searching for a chain breaker and look up info on how to break a chain so you can shorten it. The sprockets are listed in a post here on the forum you can search. https://www.amazon.com/JT-Drive-Chai...s%2C200&sr=8-2
	0

03-15-2022, 07:49 PM	#15
XLsior Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Australia Posts: 1,293	Most forum etiquette (not just this one) is search before inquire. there is a wealth of information here...no one is getting paid to manage it. What information is shared is time respected. So going about it like the a book that should be opened for you before reading it and then pissing on the book afterwards because someone didn't find the page you were looking for is just as rude...no? The forum community is not a pseudo dealership resource network.
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