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Old 02-29-2020, 12:58 AM   #31
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I'm using Lucas 20w50 year round because these engines get hot, regardless how hot it is outside. Am I wrong for this? I don't mind being a experiment by the way, for science!!
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Old 02-29-2020, 01:49 AM   #32
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everyone has a opinion on oil..

use what you wish and change it and filter regularly ….

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Old 02-29-2020, 10:41 AM   #33
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everyone has a opinion on oil..

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Great pete. You just put sanity into a good oil thread. I love reading these things. Now it will stop because they will say "yeah, I will run what I want". lol. People have some great opinions on their oil. I agree with you tho. I've never heard anyone say "brand X just ruined my engine!". I think some oil is better for wet clutches but as long as you have clean new oil is all that matters.
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Old 02-29-2020, 01:52 PM   #34
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Great pete. You just put sanity into a good oil thread. I love reading these things. Now it will stop because they will say "yeah, I will run what I want". lol. People have some great opinions on their oil. I agree with you tho. I've never heard anyone say "brand X just ruined my engine!". I think some oil is better for wet clutches but as long as you have clean new oil is all that matters.
Yeah good point Pete everyone has opinions BUT I stated that this may help other people who are newer or NEW with motorcycles. It can be hard to have an opinion if youre brand new and dont know what to do. So this thread did its job! haha now anyone can look and choose which route they want to go. Good discussion guys.
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Old 02-29-2020, 02:41 PM   #35
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Today, I put fully synthetic 5W30 oil in CG200 for the first time. Engine likes it and feels more powerfull, no clutch sleep problems. If everything goes OK this would be my new Winter oil. For summer I go to thicker oil.


 
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Old 02-29-2020, 08:42 PM   #36
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Yeah good point Pete everyone has opinions BUT I stated that this may help other people who are newer or NEW with motorcycles. It can be hard to have an opinion if youre brand new and dont know what to do. So this thread did its job! haha now anyone can look and choose which route they want to go. Good discussion guys.
Funny thing is, I basically said the same thing Pete did, but nobody got up in arms about it.

Clean oil of the right specs.

Same exact opinion, different words lol.
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Old 02-29-2020, 10:54 PM   #37
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lesson learned lol Never post on a forum about oils. Im just trying to make decisions easier for new people haha we all know we can just look in the manual and go with the "spec" but it doesnt always explain everything. The sj-sl thing confuses many people as it once confused me. No one seems to be up in arms up in arms but there seemed to be some miscommunication about the purpose of the thread. Ride safe everyone!
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Old 03-01-2020, 02:00 AM   #38
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lesson learned lol Never post on a forum about oils. Im just trying to make decisions easier for new people haha we all know we can just look in the manual and go with the "spec" but it doesnt always explain everything. The sj-sl thing confuses many people as it once confused me. No one seems to be up in arms up in arms but there seemed to be some miscommunication about the purpose of the thread. Ride safe everyone!
I don't disagree with your intentions at all. The issue is that too many people have an opinion, and that opinion is right lol.

At the end of the day, as long as the oil spec (listed in the owners manual) meets or exceeds the API standards listed, which most modern oils do, and have the appropriate wet clutch certification (JASO MA1 or MA2). And fall within the appropriate viscosity ratings.

Pretty much every bike specific 4t oil, and several "universal" and diesel oils all meet the required standards.


So with that in mind, the reason my own statement, and Pete's statement, rings as the best advice is simple. At the end of the day, regardless of what oil you run, the most important thing it all boils down to is regular oil changes, aka clean oil. The best oil on the market will lose lubricity, see an increase in acidity, and suffer from viscosity changes at some point.
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Old 03-01-2020, 09:06 AM   #39
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The best advice lol very humble. But I mean Cool, now that you explain things its a lot more understandable for people who are new or newer. That makes total sense. I also posted a link to an oil chart earlier that explains all of that as well, almost pretty much about what you said. I see what you're saying, there's no disagreeing on my part but some people don't know anything about it. That link I posted will hopefully help some NEW people. And they can read through the discussion to choose the route they like.
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