06-17-2016, 03:15 PM | #16 |
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Having recently been back in San Diego I can see how nerve wracking a breakdown would be. Heck even in an air conditioned cage SoCal traffic still stresses me out.
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06-17-2016, 03:30 PM | #17 | |
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06-17-2016, 03:46 PM | #19 | |
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Come to think of it I never had this issue until after I replaced the OEM battery so maybe I should take a better look.... my 2nd thought was something that Spud had mentioned to me a few months ago. He said my valves might be too tight which could be causing the dying issue. I think I'm gonna check them on sunday and take them all the way out to 0.8mm and see if that makes any difference. |
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06-17-2016, 04:58 PM | #20 | |
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My bike had about 80 miles on it (my brothers had 17) and after I put 100 miles on it, I wanted to check the valves, just in case, since they hadn't been set by CSC. All but one were at .08MM. Just one was a little tight. I'll be setting mine at .08MM from here on out. It really does sound like you have all the normal bugs worked out. I hope you decide to keep it. I really enjoy mine. It's a fun bike to ride..and when the rotor warps, I'll replace it, etc...etc... At least I won't be surprised! ;-)
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06-18-2016, 01:02 AM | #21 |
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From what I'm seeing on both bikes, the failure is indeed vibration related.
I don't really like the forward mount having two parallel arms instead of triangulation or a transverse mount. If the two bolts at the rear of the skid plate don't securely clamp that portion, the front is allowed to vibrate even more. Cyclic vibration fatigues the metal and breaks the grain boundaries at the edge that is most under stress (tiny crack). Once the crack is started, progression accelerates which allows the plate to swing further in vibration, in turn bending the metal more and more. The dusty/powdery looking rust is the result of the edges rubbing back and forth against each other. This is something to keep in mind every time you work on any machine, a streak of reddish brown is a sign of iron oxidation and the cause should be investigated as soon as possible. It may be something as simple as a motor mount plate needing the bolts tightened. With aluminum the clue is white powdery residue. Just my 2 cents worth, so feel free to ignore it. Jay Littleton, Former Nondestructive Inspection Technician, USAF (ret'd) |
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06-18-2016, 03:49 AM | #22 |
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weld them back on...
frames ridged skid plate is vibrating so something had to give and it found the weckest point... put thick rubber between the plate and bracket... ..
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06-18-2016, 10:34 AM | #23 | |
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06-18-2016, 12:14 PM | #24 |
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I also like Pete's idea of putting a rubber grommet between the plate and bracket. I'll do that and see how it goes. Even my old X-Moto has rubber mounts for the skid plate.
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06-18-2016, 03:12 PM | #25 |
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Upgrade to the aluminum skid?
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This bracket recently failed on my RX3, which has 18,000 miles on the odometer. I followed the example of Woodlandsprite, and re-attached the bracket with two hose clamps. I am not worried about any of the other welds on the motorcycle. I agree this bracket was not adequately designed to resist vibration, and rubber cushions might mitigate the problem. However, I think the two hose clamps will permanently fix the problem. I agree it is probably wise for all RX3 owners to install the two hose clamps before the fracture occurs.
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06-29-2016, 09:20 AM | #27 |
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For anyone riding off-road the Aluminum skid plate is the better option. I don't know anyone traveling the world by motorcycle without an Aluminum plate. Even the motocross guys have aluminum skid pates for their dirt tracks.
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