please help questions on carbs

akguy31 · 11-27-2014, 11:49 AM

hi everyone im new here,,hope im in the right place..little history first i guess..a 2007 united motors 200cc dual sport bike was just given to me...it was locked up but i useized it,and thigs seem fine,,moves freely and the piston and rings look good..had a bunch of water in it, and so did the carb. theres no way to clean these carbs so i was needing to know..does anyone know what size carb goes on this bike? says on the old carb ( PD1 and another number below that 06k11..

i cant find any like that but i did find a (PD1) online.. but didnt know if the bolt up would be the same or not..ive read some other forums that any 30mm carb would work..can sumone help me on this...? im just more concernd about it bolting up and being the right size for this bike..thanks in advance ..

BLACK DEATH · 11-27-2014, 01:09 PM

Can you post a pic if the carb?

culcune · 11-27-2014, 01:35 PM

Find a PZ30 carb or a MIkuni carb--Weldandgrind knows which specific model(s) work best. I think they are clone carbs found on ebay, but work really well...

akguy31 · 11-27-2014, 01:52 PM

thanks for helping.. heres sum pics of sum bike and the carb

akguy31 · 11-27-2014, 02:04 PM

thx culcune,,,thats what im seeing on the internet ,,but was needing to know if the bolt pattern was the same .the two tiny nuts that hold the carb on... can anyone tell me what size mm these carbs are? pd1 is all i know right now..guess u could say im needing to know if any pd1 carb would fit it. ? are all pd1 carbs the same in size? this has got me pulling out my hair here lol...thx every1 didnt expect to get this many replys on thanksgiving...happy thanksgiving everyone

tortoise · 11-27-2014, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by akguy31

theres no way to clean these carbs

At least consider disassembling the carb and trying some different strategies such as boiling or fluid vibration.

akguy31 · 11-27-2014, 03:54 PM

got it soakin now,,the slide is seized up in it, but wat able to get everything else out of it...the carbs are so cheap i feel like its better to buy a new one.. but i think i got to try the clr haha looked almost new after he cleaned it

thx

BLACK DEATH · 11-27-2014, 07:46 PM

The cheapest way is time, clean it first and if that doesn't work, buy a new or used one.
I've cleaned some pretty dirty ones but yours looks bad.
What does the bowl look like inside where the float & jets are?

Weldangrind · 11-27-2014, 08:57 PM

That carb is ready for the recycling pile. A new Mikuni is not only cheap, it's easily tuned, since jets are commonly available for it. Here's one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/30MM-MIKUNI-...b18e74&vxp=mtr

It's easy for me to respond to you, because Thanksgiving was a month ago in Canada.

akguy31 · 11-27-2014, 09:01 PM

its pretty bad lol looks like grim in the pics but its the carb with holes ate into it,,u can see the pits all in it .and as for the inside the float bowl,,looks just as bad,,but i did go ahead and purchase one off ebay today..kinda figured out it was a 30mm carb. should be here by the 2nd of dec. when i messure the bore of the intake on the carb i do measure the inside hole right? lol first time messing with the millimeters lol and once again thanks for all the help ill post as soon as it arrives

heres the link to where i bought it if anyone would like to chime in with there opinion http://www.ebay.com/itm/380827483766...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

akguy31 · 11-27-2014, 09:07 PM

hi ya weldandgrind sumone spoke of you earlier,on down the post...do you think the carb i got would be ok for my bike (2007 united motor 200cc ds ) ?

lol always thought thanks giving was same day everywhere lmao

humanbeing · 11-28-2014, 12:02 AM

Sheng Wey is a Taiwanese brand.
http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/t_16863200_1.htm Quality are so-so. Favorited by Chongqing maker ONLY
PZ19 http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/t_17461365.htm Sheng Wey is different from mainstram Kiehin clone which will drives u nuts when buying parts
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F***ed float : http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=5942

Weldangrind · 11-28-2014, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akguy31

hi ya weldandgrind sumone spoke of you earlier,on down the post...do you think the carb i got would be ok for my bike (2007 united motor 200cc ds ) ?

lol always thought thanks giving was same day everywhere lmao

The carb you bought will probably work fine, but as HB says, finding jets might be a nuisance. That's why I choose the Mikuni.

BLACK DEATH · 11-28-2014, 11:15 AM

My bad that carb is bad, harder to see the small pic on the phone.
Mikuni carb all the way as jets are very easy to get or find.
Jets are us has jets also for a lot of carbs incase you need some but I don't know if they have jets for all carbs.

akguy31 · 11-28-2014, 01:56 PM

well im at least glad to hear that the one i got should work

but in the future ill go with the mikuni. the guy i bought it from has it in the mail already,,hows that for ebay service lol soon as it gets here ill keep u guys informed ...once again thank u all for the replys

11-27-2014, 11:49 AM	#1
akguy31 Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 24	please help questions on carbs hi everyone im new here,,hope im in the right place..little history first i guess..a 2007 united motors 200cc dual sport bike was just given to me...it was locked up but i useized it,and thigs seem fine,,moves freely and the piston and rings look good..had a bunch of water in it, and so did the carb. theres no way to clean these carbs so i was needing to know..does anyone know what size carb goes on this bike? says on the old carb ( PD1 and another number below that 06k11.. i cant find any like that but i did find a (PD1) online.. but didnt know if the bolt up would be the same or not..ive read some other forums that any 30mm carb would work..can sumone help me on this...? im just more concernd about it bolting up and being the right size for this bike..thanks in advance ..
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11-27-2014, 01:35 PM	#3
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,035	Find a PZ30 carb or a MIkuni carb--Weldandgrind knows which specific model(s) work best. I think they are clone carbs found on ebay, but work really well... __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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11-27-2014, 08:57 PM	#9
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That carb is ready for the recycling pile. A new Mikuni is not only cheap, it's easily tuned, since jets are commonly available for it. Here's one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/30MM-MIKUNI-...b18e74&vxp=mtr It's easy for me to respond to you, because Thanksgiving was a month ago in Canada. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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11-28-2014, 12:02 AM	#12
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	Sheng Wey is a Taiwanese brand. http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/t_16863200_1.htm Quality are so-so. Favorited by Chongqing maker ONLY PZ19 http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/t_17461365.htm Sheng Wey is different from mainstram Kiehin clone which will drives u nuts when buying parts --- F***ed float : http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=5942 __________________
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11-27-2014, 01:09 PM	#2
BLACK DEATH Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South texas Posts: 51	Can you post a pic if the carb?
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11-27-2014, 02:04 PM	#5
akguy31 Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 24	thx culcune,,,thats what im seeing on the internet ,,but was needing to know if the bolt pattern was the same .the two tiny nuts that hold the carb on... can anyone tell me what size mm these carbs are? pd1 is all i know right now..guess u could say im needing to know if any pd1 carb would fit it. ? are all pd1 carbs the same in size? this has got me pulling out my hair here lol...thx every1 didnt expect to get this many replys on thanksgiving...happy thanksgiving everyone
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11-27-2014, 03:54 PM	#7
akguy31 Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 24	got it soakin now,,the slide is seized up in it, but wat able to get everything else out of it...the carbs are so cheap i feel like its better to buy a new one.. but i think i got to try the clr haha looked almost new after he cleaned it thx
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11-27-2014, 07:46 PM	#8
BLACK DEATH Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South texas Posts: 51	The cheapest way is time, clean it first and if that doesn't work, buy a new or used one. I've cleaned some pretty dirty ones but yours looks bad. What does the bowl look like inside where the float & jets are?
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11-27-2014, 09:01 PM	#10
akguy31 Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 24	its pretty bad lol looks like grim in the pics but its the carb with holes ate into it,,u can see the pits all in it .and as for the inside the float bowl,,looks just as bad,,but i did go ahead and purchase one off ebay today..kinda figured out it was a 30mm carb. should be here by the 2nd of dec. when i messure the bore of the intake on the carb i do measure the inside hole right? lol first time messing with the millimeters lol and once again thanks for all the help ill post as soon as it arrives heres the link to where i bought it if anyone would like to chime in with there opinion http://www.ebay.com/itm/380827483766...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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11-27-2014, 09:07 PM	#11
akguy31 Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 24	hi ya weldandgrind sumone spoke of you earlier,on down the post...do you think the carb i got would be ok for my bike (2007 united motor 200cc ds ) ? lol always thought thanks giving was same day everywhere lmao
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11-28-2014, 11:15 AM	#14
BLACK DEATH Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South texas Posts: 51	My bad that carb is bad, harder to see the small pic on the phone. Mikuni carb all the way as jets are very easy to get or find. Jets are us has jets also for a lot of carbs incase you need some but I don't know if they have jets for all carbs.
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11-28-2014, 01:56 PM	#15
akguy31 Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 24	well im at least glad to hear that the one i got should work but in the future ill go with the mikuni. the guy i bought it from has it in the mail already,,hows that for ebay service lol soon as it gets here ill keep u guys informed ...once again thank u all for the replys
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