12-16-2018, 01:40 AM | #1 |
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A Shineray of hope!! 400cc that is!!
I know this bike was shown what must be 3 years ago. Never made it here, but now...well, it IS here according to the video. http://www.genuinescooters.com/g400c.html
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12-16-2018, 02:04 AM | #3 |
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motor looks like a Honda XR400 copy...
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12-16-2018, 02:20 AM | #4 |
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I believe it is--Shineray have an acclaimed dual sport from years back which used this engine. I vaguely recall from mychinamoto.com one or two members there (ex-pats living in China with the bike) mentioning that.
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12-16-2018, 02:42 AM | #5 |
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Wonder if they copyed it right down to the valve configgeration..
radial four valve system...all valves are on a diffrent plain and valve angles would meet at a centre point of the piston crown when the piston is at BDC.. is one of the reasons why the XR motors had a little more punch than other motors of the day... ..
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12-16-2018, 03:27 AM | #6 |
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I love it. This is the kind of bike I have kind of been hoping would come to the U.S. I think the $4,600 price tag is a little bit steep considering a Honda Rebel 300/500 can be had for not much more money. I guess this does definitely offer a more vintage looking/feeling bike though, so to each his/her own. I would be heavily interested in one of these if I knew I could get my hands on one for $4000.
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12-16-2018, 05:17 AM | #7 |
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Word on the streets in China is that it looks great but not good, I knew a several guys here that had the X5 off road ----- not good and Shineray engines are weak and break 2nd gear (X2 and X5 both off road bikes)
I like the bike and the motor is a CB400SS copy but not well made (There is a Taiwanese company who makes them and they are good) Plenty of comments on other forums and I wanted to buy one, I knew a couple guys and they which they hadn't bought them (X5). 1 had endless charge issues and a busted 2nd gear as well as several swing arms, the other I did repairs on he busted a starter in 9 months and he had several leaking tanks due to poor manufacturing. Their X2 was maybe a little better but also busted 2nd gear easily. The engine is the same in the Retro but seeing they are not off road then maybe OK if not off roaded. My local mechanic services the version with the side cart - he also says not a very good quality bike. lowish quality bits and parts and for $5000 that's a fair chunk of change Should have Delphi EFI (its good not perfect) If you can buy the U.K.400 that has the Taiwan built engine and better quality all round |
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12-16-2018, 06:00 AM | #8 |
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Hope they didn't copy the Honda XR's 4 valve head. Its a bizarre design with rocker arms on top of rocker arms at weird angles. It was always noisy and parts tended to wear out.
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Weirdly I would rather have a carburetor on this bike myself. Looks like the motor has an XR400 intake pattern, so converting it wouldn't be difficult. Quote:
On the plus side of things, if it does follow the XR design closely, that also means there are lots of performance parts that could be swapped over. I think this bike would be awesome for a cheap and easy flat tracker build.
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I remember thinking that it all looked very weird in there and wondered where I should pock the feeler gauge |
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12-16-2018, 11:08 AM | #13 |
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Pity then, might be Ok as a road bike, def not good in the off road bikes.
The parts are pretty cheap resulting in some quality issues and at that price........... it isn't a budget bike to be fair. Local price is something like RX3 price range just around $3100 USD at my local dealer. parts are easy enough to get............. generally speaking |
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12-16-2018, 04:36 PM | #14 |
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Might want to tell Genuine that information. Even their site says Taiwan. I do find it funny that in pictures and video it says made in China many places. So it could be assembled in Taiwan.
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Often the Taiwanese bikes or parts are assembled in China due to cheap labour but again maybe dealer has incorrect info listed as they don't know or care and buyers just buy and part with money. Many people don't want you to know too much beyond only parting with your cash. I think as a road bike not ridden hard it be a nice fun bike but price tag is up there and some folk at that would rather buy a mainstream bike. Anyway that is enough from me lol |
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