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Old 04-03-2017, 08:47 PM   #1
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Another Magician 250 sprocket question--

Any you Magician owners took a look at the mounting on your rear sprocket? Six-bolt cush-drive bushings they call them I think. Just curious---I've been searching to see if there are any replacements anywhere. Looks like a rare beast at the moment. My bike's brand new so not a problem now, but in days past I've worn out a bunch of sprockets on an old Yamaha. These on the Magician look weird----


 
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Old 05-11-2017, 01:01 PM   #2
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Update on Magician sprockets---after searching the 'net and finding nothing--I called RPS. They have them, no problems with availability. Also, the rear brakes on mine suck, but there are several brands of good brake pads available for Yamaha bikes. Looks like parts to keep a Magician going for a long time are readily available.


 
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Old 05-11-2017, 01:24 PM   #3
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I hadn't looked at and/or thought about it yet. But, I appreciate the info. There isn't as many of us magician guys on here so any info on it is always nice.


 
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Old 05-11-2017, 02:46 PM   #4
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I don't have a Magician, but if you can measure the bolt circle diameter and the center hole diameter of one of the rear sprockets it shouldn't make it too hard to track one down.


 
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Old 05-11-2017, 05:12 PM   #5
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The rear sprocket is the same as a Yamaha XG250 Tricker.
The Yamaha isn't sold in the U.S. so we don't know if the parts are available here for it. There are some of us here that will gladly search if any of the Magician owners take some photos and measurements of their sprockets.
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Old 05-11-2017, 07:05 PM   #6
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That would be rather unecessary considering there are likely off the shelf sprockets that can be used. These bikes are clones, and usually the parts generally can interchange to some degree. Sprockets especially.


 
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Old 05-23-2017, 08:04 AM   #7
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there is a company called sprocket specialist in California, in the past I have sent them a sprocket for a template and they made almost any teeth size.


 
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Old 05-23-2017, 08:41 AM   #8
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When I needed a sprocket for my TMEC 200, since they used, for some odd reason, a few different Euro bike sprockets, as opposed to what most every other endure uses--Honda XL185 sprockets, I ended up ordering from a shop in the UK who agreed to send me one (it took a few shops to find the one!). It was easier and less cost than ordering direct from JT Sprockets' US affiliate (it was a JT sprocket). If you can figure out which JT the Trickster uses, email these guys http://www.urbanbike.co.uk/ and see how much it would cost. They came through for me!
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Old 05-23-2017, 08:47 AM   #9
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Evidently JT does not have a sprocket available as of yet. Custom it might be!

http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue/model/2546
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Old 09-05-2017, 06:52 PM   #10
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hi im new here. i just bought a magician and want a 40-42 rear sprocket for mine. anyone got a link where i can just buy one?


 
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Old 09-05-2017, 07:27 PM   #11
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I just looked again at the JT catalog, and still states 'TBA' so I am guessing you might want to double check with RPS to see if they really have them or just ones for the Hawk. The Magician is going to be an 'oddball' bike like my TMEC 200 enduro was.
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Old 09-06-2017, 12:53 AM   #12
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Rear sprockets for the Yamaha Tricker seem to be the right one, but it was not a US market bike, so aprockets have to be bought from overseas. You can find them in Europe, but they arent cheap.
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Old 09-06-2017, 12:37 PM   #13
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Rear sprockets for the Yamaha Tricker seem to be the right one, but it was not a US market bike, so aprockets have to be bought from overseas. You can find them in Europe, but they arent cheap.
Who, besides JT, has them? I found out that the TMEC 200 uses an oddball hub, and I ordered a JT sprocket from a retail store in the UK who was pretty much the only retailer who would ship internationally. It was actually cheaper and less complicated than ordering from JT's US subsidiary as I did contact them as well. But, JT's site states that the rear sprockets are 'TBA' so if there is another brand, perhaps it could be ordered from the same store in the UK that I bought mine from?
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Okay...found an aftermarket dealer in Japan with sprockets for the Tricker. This one seemed be the closest to being useful (as in--made for the street rather than climbing trees) at 42 teeth. https://japan.webike.net/products/23195094.html

Of course, the 'trick' (yes, pun intended) to a front sprocket, which is highly recommended to change for better street use (17 tooth is my recommendation, although I am not sure if the Magician/Hawk engine needs slight trimming to fit one, so you might be stuck with a 16) is to use the same one that the Hawk uses since the engine is Honda-based, NOT Yamaha. Those are cheap and plentiful all over the US on Ebay and Amazon.

This was the page from Webike which shows a few countersprockets (ignore those for the reason I mentioned) and a couple other rear sprockets which seem very expensive. The other reasonably priced 45 tooth states that something else is needed to work with the Tricker, so the 42 would probably do the 'trick' (couldn't resist ).

https://japan.webike.net/ps/#!p.m=844&p.c=1152&p.sk=1
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Old 09-06-2017, 07:12 PM   #15
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17 tooth fit my hawk just fine
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