Go Back   ChinaRiders Forums > Technical/Performance > Adventure Bikes > Zongshen RX3
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 09-29-2021, 04:40 AM   #1
ralphbalena   ralphbalena is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 12
Hard to reach 100kph /62mph

I recently bought a 2nd hand RX3 (carb type) here in the Philippines.



I'm satisfied with it for city driving however when I do get on the highway, i find it hard to reach 100kph /62mph. I have to push the throttle all the way just to reach. What should I adjust?

Odo reading is around 20,000 already. I'm not sure if the 1st owner already had its valve clearance adjusted.





thank you in advance!


 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2021, 08:46 AM   #2
JerryHawk250   JerryHawk250 is online now
Moderator
 
JerryHawk250's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Houma, La.
Posts: 11,715
Valve adjustment wouldn't . What sprockets are installed? The previous owner may have installed a larger rear or smaller front sprocket to gain low end torque.
__________________
2024 Linhai 300 ATV 4x4
2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper
2023 Venom Evader
2022 Lifan KPX250
2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold)
2004 Honda ST 1300
2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold)
Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster
2016 Cazador180 XL
2014 Coolster150
JerryHawk250.com
My YouTube Channel


 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2021, 11:46 AM   #3
ralphbalena   ralphbalena is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 12
stock sprockets are installed.

stock 32mm carb is also installed. maybe it has something to do with the carb?


 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2021, 11:49 AM   #4
Working_ZS   Working_ZS is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 365
The stock set up on US RX3's is a 14T in the front and a 44T in the rear, IIRC. If the previous owner went down one in the front, your top speed sounds just about right. I run a 13T in the front and 65-70 MPH is about the absolute maximum I can achieve at WOT, depending upon the terrain and headwinds. We also have 17" rear wheels, I don't know if you have them also, or if you are running the original 15" rear wheel; if you have the 15" wheel, then that would also account for your low top speed.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2021, 12:10 PM   #5
ralphbalena   ralphbalena is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 12
yes, mine also uses those stock sprocket sizes. 14t and 44t.
I've also upgraded it to 17" for the rear and retained the 18" on the front.

I really noticed it when I rode together with other rx3 users here, I can't keep up with them.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2021, 01:25 PM   #6
Working_ZS   Working_ZS is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 365
A few other things to check would be a clogged air or fuel filter, a restricted exhaust, and engine cylinder compression; also take a good look at the condition of your spark plug when you remove it to do a compression check - it should be tan or tannish in color, not white, and definitely not black and sooty, which would indicate you are running too rich. If the plug is black and sooty, and your air filter is not clogged, then you will need to install different jets in the carburator. If you need to swap out the carb jets, I would use your friends bikes as a reference point as to which size jets you need.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2021, 01:29 PM   #7
Emerikol   Emerikol is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Carrollton, GA
Posts: 1,467
Those sprocket sizes are likely your limiting factor. When I first got my Hawk, it had 14/55 sprockets on it. It wouldn't go any faster than 45mph, but it would climb a tree straight up! I changed it to 17/39, and with the other standard farkles (rejet carb, pod filter, aftermarket exhaust, etc) it made the bike much more useable on the street. I'd still make sure everything else is taken care of, valve lash being top of that list, but the sprockets are the likely culprit to not being able to keep up.
__________________
First Rule of Aviation:
-Never Pass Up The Opportunity to Pee

I was struggling to get my wife's attention; I sat down on the couch and looked comfortable. That did the trick!

My wife says I only have two faults. I don't listen and something else...

If at first you don't succeed, try doing it the way I told you to...

The Stable:
2005 Yamaha V-Star 650 - SOLD
2015 Suzuki DR 650
2015 RPS Hawk 250 - SOLD
2016 Ural Gear Up


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2021, 11:28 AM   #8
ralphbalena   ralphbalena is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 12
still using the stock sprockets 14/44.

does it have to do with the carb setting or jets? haven't had the time to send the bike to a mechanic to check on it.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2021, 05:40 PM   #9
Emerikol   Emerikol is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Carrollton, GA
Posts: 1,467
These bikes come from the factory super (and I mean SUPER) lean. Most people find going up two or three jet sizes is just about right. I shimmed my needle with a thin washer, too. Look up Motocheez on YouTube. He has a lot of really good info on getting these bikes assembled, and how to do the necessary upgrades on them.
__________________
First Rule of Aviation:
-Never Pass Up The Opportunity to Pee

I was struggling to get my wife's attention; I sat down on the couch and looked comfortable. That did the trick!

My wife says I only have two faults. I don't listen and something else...

If at first you don't succeed, try doing it the way I told you to...

The Stable:
2005 Yamaha V-Star 650 - SOLD
2015 Suzuki DR 650
2015 RPS Hawk 250 - SOLD
2016 Ural Gear Up


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2021, 09:11 PM   #10
Jay In Milpitas   Jay In Milpitas is offline
 
Jay In Milpitas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Milpitas, CA. USA
Posts: 775
Always basics first.

Ralph, does the engine reach red-line in fourth and fifth gear? Obviously it doesn't in sixth or you would be near 80 mph.

But always start with basic maintenance steps.
1. Valve clearance.
2. Test compression.
3. Ignition system:
a. Spark plug condition.
b. Ignition timing (should NOT really be a problem).
c. Spark quality (fat blue spark).
4. Air filter clean, no obstructions (mice like to nest in them).
5. Fuel system.
a. Filter clean, good gas flow.
b. Carburetor clean, adjusted, throttle opens fully.

Those steps, in order. Applies to any four stroke engine.
Good luck and happy hunting.
__________________
Horse holder at Madame Orr's House.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2021, 10:43 AM   #11
ralphbalena   ralphbalena is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 12
on sixth gear, yes it nears 80. but i'm afraid that i might blow the engine since it seems that it red lines pretty fast.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2021, 11:08 AM   #12
Oldenslow   Oldenslow is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 153
An acquaintance called me one day after learning I had a China bike to ask me to diagnose the problem he was having on his bike -- same as yours, the bike would barely go 100 kph. I told him I was no mechnic but would come look it over. I did, jumped on the bike and found it would easily hit 120 kph with me on it. As I rode my whole 200 lbs. back in to the guy's driveway, I saw his 280-pound self waiting for me, and I had my diagnosis and treatment plan already. Diagnosis -- trying to move excess weight around with a tiny 18-hp motor. Treatment -- lose weight. Trust me, no amount of carb jetting or sprocket changing is gonna fix it if that's your problem.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2021, 11:29 AM   #13
franque   franque is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Marseille, France -> Conakry, Guinea
Posts: 1,481
It sounds like it's just geared really low if it's nearing redline at 80 km/h, either that or the clutch is slipping. Have you checked the sprockets to see what size they are? It could be just geared really low, or like I said, it could be that the clutch is slipping, I would check both.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2021, 11:53 AM   #14
ralphbalena   ralphbalena is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 12
I'll post a video tomorrow just so you can see the actual problem hehe

@oldenslow, weight is not the problem since i'm thin (60kg).

@franque, the sprockets are still stock. I'll change the rear to 42T from 44T (stock) when my order arrives.

actually this is not of a big deal when I drive it daily on the city, but during weekends, I tend to go highway and that is where it sucks. I'm stuck running at around 75-80kph


 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2021, 01:35 AM   #15
Chris_Top_Her   Chris_Top_Her is offline
 
Chris_Top_Her's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 62
Could be as simple as regular maintenance is needed as others have said. Put a fuel system cleaner in the tank too.
__________________
CSC RX4 2020


 
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.