03-10-2007, 01:18 AM | #1 |
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Roketa clutch slipping (FIXED)
my clutch is starting to slip even worse now. Bruce had said something about clutch springs? i looked at the clutch assembly pictures of a xr200 and i only see one spring and it's at the opposite end of the pressure plate. anyone have any idea as to what i can do?
Edit: i fixed the problem, see page 3
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03-10-2007, 01:26 AM | #2 |
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Hey FMY,
You should have multiple springs, I think 6 in all... As was posted before, these bikes are like Bic lighters, disposable, you've had more wear out on this bike than anyone else here, maybe time to trade her in???
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03-10-2007, 01:29 AM | #3 |
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yeah i've been thinking about getting rid of it for a while now. guy at my work might be interested in buying it. i'll probly pick up a lifan next.
btw are the springs adjustable or just have to be replaced?
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03-10-2007, 03:34 AM | #4 |
springs
in the old days we would just add a washer to each sping. but it is most likeley disks are wering out not a hard job to replace.
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03-10-2007, 07:53 AM | #5 |
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Most of the Roketa clutches slip from the factory...ask Fatboy250 he has one that has slipped since day one.
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03-10-2007, 09:35 AM | #6 |
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FMY,
Depending on how bad it is you'd probably have to replace the clutch plates, I have done this on other bikes and it's really not that hard.. I would replace the springs too while you're at it.. Finding plates and springs may be hard unless EJ or RPM have them...
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03-10-2007, 09:44 AM | #7 |
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i wouldn't think that the plates are wearing out already, i've only had the bike for a couple of months.
how to i add washers to the springs? anyone have any pics?
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03-10-2007, 11:11 AM | #8 |
You may have to take your cable off and the kick starter then remove the engine cover. once cover is removed you will see the basket assembly. If you are going to this much trouble, go ahead and take the clutches out and find a suitable Honda match, we all would like to know, I guarantee you will notice a difference with heavyduty friction plates and springs and probably won't have to replace them again. BTW are you using synthetic oil?
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03-10-2007, 04:58 PM | #9 |
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yeah maybe i'll see if the clutch plates are the same on the xr200. i'm pretty sure Bruce is going to start working on something like this.
i use regular valvoline motorcycle oil.
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03-10-2007, 06:03 PM | #10 |
I'll post a picture from my Roketa parts manual of the clutch showing where to add the washers. You may want to try 20W-50 oil before you tear stuff apart though. Worked on my Ninja(wayyy back when)
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03-10-2007, 06:36 PM | #11 |
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Before I had concluded that the springs were weak for the load that the bike was carrying (265lbs) However, I started taking note that just before each 1000mile oil change the clutch slip problem was almost non-existant. So, I started watching the miles after the last oil change and figured that around 550-600miles after oil changes the clutch rarely slipped even under hard acceleration in all gears. So, I told Dad that I'm going to start changing the oil every 2000 miles and see how this effects things. BTW, I've used different types of oils, the latest being Valvoline 10W-40 Motorcycle oil.
I will say that the springs are probably the culprit but are much less noticable when the "oil" is broke in. The washer fix was going to be my next route if things didn't improve. Hope this helps, Jason
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03-10-2007, 06:58 PM | #12 |
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humm, i did just change the oil yesterday on the bike and i didn't think it was as bad before i changed it. will the 20-50 oil really help? i'll probly give that a shot on monday i guess. i figured that thiner oil would help though. maybe i'll back off changing the oil as often, i've been changing it about once a week. my bike probly has about 1,000 miles on it and the oil has probly been changed atleast 5-8 times.
i still think i'm going to try adding washers when ever i get the chance. i like my clutches to grab hard. my car has a 2600 LB. pressure plate and a 4-puck ceramic clutch disk.
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03-10-2007, 07:11 PM | #13 |
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I just bought some 20-50 Castrol motorcycle oil today. But, I hadn't planned to change mine for about another 1000miles, so I don't know. Maybe you could do it and see. If that cures it then I'll just run 20-50 from now on. Right now I only have the occasional slip into 5th with only about 600miles on this recent oil change. Knowing all the while that I drive the bike hard all the time.
Hope this helps, Jason
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03-10-2007, 10:13 PM | #15 |
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Just for the sake of eliminating everything, have you adjusted the clutch cable to release all the way at full engagement? There was a little adjusting needed initially on ours. I also added a small spring to our armatures to pull it back to make sure it was fully released when the clutch is let out.
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