Gio 125cc wont start after first ride.

SBC350 · 11-13-2010, 03:12 PM

Hi,

As some may have read my other post, I just bought two GIO 125cc bikes. So today myself and my brother in law we go for a ride
Anyway, we get back home, we wash our bikes and now his bike is acting weird. When we crank it, its likes the clutch is engaged or the ignition is off or kill switch is ON...
Sometime we kickstart it 2-3 times and you ear a bit of exaust sound but most of the time its like we are cranking we no compression...

Any tips?
Alex

SBC350 · 11-13-2010, 03:58 PM

after some thinking it could be the kickstart gear.

where could i find some?

waynev · 11-13-2010, 07:34 PM

If your kicking it over but it feels like there's little compression then the odds are that you are pulling the clutch in when trying to start it, bike must be in neutral and the clutch cannot be pulled in when kicking it over.

Weldangrind · 11-13-2010, 08:12 PM

Can you bump start the bike?

SBC350 · 11-13-2010, 10:41 PM

I know, im not using the clutch. But it feels like the clutch is depressed.

I tried to bump start it in 2nd and the tires just lock.

So, tomorrow I will try to start it again, if it doesnt work I will open it and see the kickstarter gear as it sounds like a good possibility since out of 10 kickstart, 2-3 times your hear some compression/exaust sound and the other times you just hear like a winding sound no "compression' feel on the kickstarter.

Just for the hell of it, do you know which kickstarter gear should I get, I want to see whats the price range?

FastDoc · 11-13-2010, 10:46 PM

Try bumpstarting in top gear.

You may want to check your compression.

A tight valve could cause you to lose compression, worth checking.

Is this a horizonatal or vertical engine? Honda clone, I assume?

Weldangrind · 11-14-2010, 02:49 AM

Yep, horizontal Honda clone.

Try disconnecting the clutch lever and see how it feels when you kick it in neutral.

Mdeth77 · 04-26-2011, 02:00 PM

i hade this problem before it hade no kick to it but it went away but now its back after a day of riding i dont think its the kick gear somthign to do with the clutch cable/lever not engadeing proborly

so! just wondering if you found out exactly what it is pls reply

SBC350 · 04-26-2011, 03:39 PM

It went away. But we didnt wash the bike since the last time washed it and had the issue.

So my guess, it is probably related to the electrical. I bought some dielectic grease and i will protect the connection with it.

FastDoc · 04-26-2011, 04:30 PM

CDI. Keep a spare handy

Alex64 · 07-16-2012, 05:13 PM

Although this is an older post I thought I would add on since I had the same problem. Ran fine and tried to start it a couple of days later and almost no tension on the kick start.

In my case it turned out the clutch was sticky. I was preparing to pop the cover off the right hand side to check the gears. In the process I disconnected the bottom connector on the clutch. It dropped quite a way so I figured I would try the kick start again for the heck of it. Sure enough it turned over properly again. Readjusted the tension and the bike is good as new...

Weldangrind · 07-17-2012, 01:58 AM

Thanks for the tip!

11-13-2010, 03:12 PM	#1
SBC350 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 37	Gio 125cc wont start after first ride. Hi, As some may have read my other post, I just bought two GIO 125cc bikes. So today myself and my brother in law we go for a ride Anyway, we get back home, we wash our bikes and now his bike is acting weird. When we crank it, its likes the clutch is engaged or the ignition is off or kill switch is ON... Sometime we kickstart it 2-3 times and you ear a bit of exaust sound but most of the time its like we are cranking we no compression... Any tips? Alex __________________ -73 Camaro -2010 GIO 125cc dirtbike -2010 GIO X33 140cc
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11-13-2010, 03:58 PM	#2
SBC350 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 37	after some thinking it could be the kickstart gear. where could i find some? __________________ -73 Camaro -2010 GIO 125cc dirtbike -2010 GIO X33 140cc
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11-13-2010, 08:12 PM	#4
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Can you bump start the bike? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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11-13-2010, 10:41 PM	#5
SBC350 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 37	I know, im not using the clutch. But it feels like the clutch is depressed. I tried to bump start it in 2nd and the tires just lock. So, tomorrow I will try to start it again, if it doesnt work I will open it and see the kickstarter gear as it sounds like a good possibility since out of 10 kickstart, 2-3 times your hear some compression/exaust sound and the other times you just hear like a winding sound no "compression' feel on the kickstarter. Just for the hell of it, do you know which kickstarter gear should I get, I want to see whats the price range? __________________ -73 Camaro -2010 GIO 125cc dirtbike -2010 GIO X33 140cc
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11-13-2010, 10:46 PM	#6
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	Try bumpstarting in top gear. You may want to check your compression. A tight valve could cause you to lose compression, worth checking. Is this a horizonatal or vertical engine? Honda clone, I assume? __________________ Happy to serve.
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11-13-2010, 07:34 PM	#3
waynev Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 1,097	If your kicking it over but it feels like there's little compression then the odds are that you are pulling the clutch in when trying to start it, bike must be in neutral and the clutch cannot be pulled in when kicking it over.
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11-14-2010, 02:49 AM	#7
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Yep, horizontal Honda clone. Try disconnecting the clutch lever and see how it feels when you kick it in neutral. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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04-26-2011, 02:00 PM	#8
Mdeth77 Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2	same problem i hade this problem before it hade no kick to it but it went away but now its back after a day of riding i dont think its the kick gear somthign to do with the clutch cable/lever not engadeing proborly so! just wondering if you found out exactly what it is pls reply
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04-26-2011, 03:39 PM	#9
SBC350 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 37	It went away. But we didnt wash the bike since the last time washed it and had the issue. So my guess, it is probably related to the electrical. I bought some dielectic grease and i will protect the connection with it. __________________ -73 Camaro -2010 GIO 125cc dirtbike -2010 GIO X33 140cc
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04-26-2011, 04:30 PM	#10
FastDoc Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southeastern Washington desert Posts: 14,761	CDI. Keep a spare handy __________________ Happy to serve.
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07-16-2012, 05:13 PM	#11
Alex64 Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1	Same problem Although this is an older post I thought I would add on since I had the same problem. Ran fine and tried to start it a couple of days later and almost no tension on the kick start. In my case it turned out the clutch was sticky. I was preparing to pop the cover off the right hand side to check the gears. In the process I disconnected the bottom connector on the clutch. It dropped quite a way so I figured I would try the kick start again for the heck of it. Sure enough it turned over properly again. Readjusted the tension and the bike is good as new...
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07-17-2012, 01:58 AM	#12
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Thanks for the tip! __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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