12-30-2015, 11:32 AM | #1 |
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Big brakes, a little wait
As usual, the fine folks at CSC have listened. They have introduced a big rotor solution to the front end of the RX3. I like that it is 1mm thicker (more mass, greater heat dissipation) and larger in diameter (greater stopping leverage.). Combine with the sintered front brake pads, and this is promising to be a strong braking solution.
Read all about it on CSC's blog posting from today! |
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12-30-2015, 12:50 PM | #2 |
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Funny thing is I do not find the stock setup that bad, maybe coming off a Ural that half the time the brakes don't work anyways has primed me for the RX3 brakes
But really compared to some other bikes the brakes are not bad. I am glad to see CSC once again not only listening to their customers but doing something about it as well
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12-30-2015, 01:55 PM | #3 |
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yea, its just a little sad it won't be standard on the 2016 models when they know its an issue many will consider a mandatory change
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12-30-2015, 02:07 PM | #4 |
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Weak brakes is an opinion only, every update will add to bike price it would be $200 on top of 2016 prices putting the bike over $4,000. Many bikes suffer from the same issues my TW200 for one, some people claim the brakes on the CRF250L are soft also and it goes on and on, mandatory may be a bit strong.
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12-30-2015, 02:16 PM | #5 | |
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Really??? That's your thought knowing: What the bike retails for Plenty of folks find the stock brakes fine after better pads installed CSC's history of helping I am still amazed at those who cannot see the forest for the trees. |
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12-30-2015, 02:23 PM | #6 |
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question I have is why the pad is only rubbing half of the disk surface? seems like it should either have a larger pad surface to make use of the disk surface or a smaller disk area to lighten the disk
not a criticism more a curiosity - I've noticed it on some other bikes as well
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12-30-2015, 02:40 PM | #7 |
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Sintered pads cost me 9 dollars. I'm sure the new rotor is something like 50 dollars, not a big deal really, I'm glad they are providing the option.
*should have read the blog, 299 for the kit. I'll be likely buying it if the sintered pads don't do the trick. It wouldn't be as noticeable if I weren't going back and forth between a bike with a nice set of brembos. |
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12-30-2015, 05:40 PM | #9 | |
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In terms of braking, while more surface area contact would provide more drag, having surface area contact on the disk face furthest toward the outside provides greatest leverage to stop the rotation of the wheel. I guess another solution would be to find another caliper that would provide the reach to cover the rotor surface, but I think that would get expensive pretty quickly, and I'm not sure what the braking force required at the lever end might be given the change in caliper and piston count. |
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If you have any problems with the front brake, you can quickly rectify them. First, you should loosen all the brake rotor bolts, then tighten them incrementally, in a star pattern. If the front brake is pulsing, CSC will send you a new brake rotor under warranty coverage. Also, you can install sintered brake pads. CSC is now offering DP sintered brake pads. You can also install EBC FA185 brake pads. http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=15503
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12-31-2015, 09:41 AM | #12 | |
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if they are sourcing existing parts that work to keep costs low then I fully understand. I've done the same thing customizing cars for years, but if they are having them made for the bike then it seems that a simple change to the disk profile that goes to the cutters would make it a little nicer.
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12-31-2015, 12:32 PM | #13 |
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It's obviously parts bin shopping was done at Zong on the F brake.
Which is fine for this price point and to be expected. |
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01-05-2016, 09:58 AM | #15 |
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My two cents on the brakes. I'm a new rider so take it for what its worth.
I'm surprised by the lack of front brake on the bike. Makes me rethink my opinion about the DR650 brakes! And let me tell you that I like the RX3 a lot. But when it comes to brakes, it's more of a safety issue. I'm surprised that the motorcycle industry isn't regulated like the car industry when it comes to safety. Yeah, I know, your riding a motorcycle, if you wanna be safe drive... but still, I feel like a responsible company wouldn't put out an inferior product but rather they want you to pay for it. They should just make the big brakes a standard and not even offer the smaller brakes as an option and adjust the price. |
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