X-Pro Size comparisons?

Weresquatch · 02-12-2024, 05:00 PM

I know this information is mentioned here and there across the forums but I thought it might be helpful to have in one place. My Templar X was delivered today and assuming everything goes well, I'd like to get a dual sport for my wife too.

What are the relative size differences between the X-Pro offerings? I'm looking for differences in weight, wheel size, clearance, seat height and length between the Hawk, Titan, Templar/M, and the X.

I apologize if I overlooked a sticky somewhere or if this same things is offered in one thread elsewhere.

solidsnake2431 · 02-14-2024, 05:26 AM

I have the Templar X it's an amazing bike I wouldn't bother owning one that didn't have the extra gear for road riding and the counter balanced engine but... stock it is VERY tall. It is slightly taller then most motocross and other dirtbikes but can easily be lowered via the rear shock second hole that brings the seat from 38ish inches to about 35. I am a good 5"10 and even when lowered have a little issue because the inseam of most riding pants does not come up high enough (the crotch is too low) but riding with most jeans are ok.

Thumper · 02-14-2024, 05:41 AM

Hawk might be a good choice for her. Seat height is at least 3 inches lower and handlebars are closer, slightly narrower. What is her height/inseam?
Lifan Expect 200 is another candidate. These are dual sports bikes rather than enduros. Expect has EFI, which means no carb jetting, but they do run lean. I am partial to carbs since they are simple and easy to tune, but there are lots of happy Expect owners out there.

Weresquatch · 02-14-2024, 01:42 PM

I appreciate the replies. I just got my Templar X delivered yesterday. Once it's built I can get a better idea of what the wife needs. So far I'm impressed with the spec on this bike. It's surprisingly burly. The welds are pretty darn good (I'm still unpacking it though).

Weresquatch · 02-14-2024, 04:59 PM

Wife is 5'6", almost no off-road experience but commutes on a Vespa 150cc w/about 12hp. I don't think a power increase will be an issue for her as much as being able to not feel too tall.

**JerryHawk250** · 02-14-2024, 05:57 PM

The RPS Magician 250 has a low seat height of 32"
https://www.powersportsmax.com/produ...ducts_id/20647

Also the Venom Thunder 125 which is pretty peppy for a 125.
https://www.venommotorsportsusa.com/...4-speed-manual

panzer77 · 02-14-2024, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Weresquatch

I know this information is mentioned here and there across the forums but I thought it might be helpful to have in one place. My Templar X was delivered today and assuming everything goes well, I'd like to get a dual sport for my wife too.

What are the relative size differences between the X-Pro offerings? I'm looking for differences in weight, wheel size, clearance, seat height and length between the Hawk, Titan, Templar/M, and the X.

I apologize if I overlooked a sticky somewhere or if this same things is offered in one thread elsewhere.

I'm in almost the same situation. My wife took the BRC and got her motorcycle license last summer. She had been riding around a Honda scooter and likes it and has expressed interest in trail riding with me. I want to get her something she can lift and lower standover and set height. I like the Storm 150 because of the lights and speedometer but it's too tall and now out of stock. There is a 125 hawk that looks like it might work but I'm concerned about the power.

Thumper · 02-14-2024, 08:21 PM

Check into the Bashan Storm as well. The Hawk, the Storm are both contenders. You can shim the fork tubes up in the clamps to drop the seat height another inch. I have a Storm, and it is a nice bike.

Weresquatch · 02-15-2024, 03:17 PM

Good looking out. The Bashan Storm wasn't on my radar. I'll check it out.

Weresquatch · 02-28-2024, 06:13 PM

Looks like the Storm 150 DLX is back in stock...is that a contender for someone say 5'6"? Anyone have one with first had knowledge of how they do offroad?

Mikd · 02-28-2024, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Weresquatch

Looks like the Storm 150 DLX is back in stock...is that a contender for someone say 5'6"? Anyone have one with first had knowledge of how they do offroad?

Check out Mike Festiva on YouTube, he has some nice vids and reviews on this and base Templar

Mikd · 02-28-2024, 08:38 PM

Weresquatch · 02-29-2024, 10:17 AM

Yup....his videos are what put the Storm 150 on my radar.

panzer77 · 02-29-2024, 02:26 PM

Just checked PSM, didn't see the Strom available yet but the Sail is there. I want the stree legal stuff for the wife's bike.

Weresquatch · 02-29-2024, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by panzer77

Just checked PSM, didn't see the Strom available yet but the Sail is there. I want the stree legal stuff for the wife's bike.

It's on X-pro's site w/free shipping
https://xprousa.com/collections/dirt...44402033000608

arrrrgghhh! Unavailable again. I swear yesterday they had some....back to waiting.

02-12-2024, 05:00 PM	#1
Weresquatch Join Date: Jan 2024 Posts: 106	X-Pro Size comparisons? I know this information is mentioned here and there across the forums but I thought it might be helpful to have in one place. My Templar X was delivered today and assuming everything goes well, I'd like to get a dual sport for my wife too. What are the relative size differences between the X-Pro offerings? I'm looking for differences in weight, wheel size, clearance, seat height and length between the Hawk, Titan, Templar/M, and the X. I apologize if I overlooked a sticky somewhere or if this same things is offered in one thread elsewhere.
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02-14-2024, 05:41 AM	#3
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,744	Hawk might be a good choice for her. Seat height is at least 3 inches lower and handlebars are closer, slightly narrower. What is her height/inseam? Lifan Expect 200 is another candidate. These are dual sports bikes rather than enduros. Expect has EFI, which means no carb jetting, but they do run lean. I am partial to carbs since they are simple and easy to tune, but there are lots of happy Expect owners out there. __________________ No matter where you go, there you are Last edited by Thumper; 02-14-2024 at 09:54 AM.
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02-14-2024, 05:57 PM	#6
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,715	The RPS Magician 250 has a low seat height of 32" https://www.powersportsmax.com/produ...ducts_id/20647 Also the Venom Thunder 125 which is pretty peppy for a 125. https://www.venommotorsportsusa.com/...4-speed-manual __________________ 2024 Linhai 300 ATV 4x4 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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02-14-2024, 08:21 PM	#8
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,744	Check into the Bashan Storm as well. The Hawk, the Storm are both contenders. You can shim the fork tubes up in the clamps to drop the seat height another inch. I have a Storm, and it is a nice bike. __________________ No matter where you go, there you are Last edited by Thumper; 02-29-2024 at 02:33 PM.
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02-28-2024, 06:13 PM	#10
Weresquatch Join Date: Jan 2024 Posts: 106	Looks like the Storm 150 DLX is back in stock...is that a contender for someone say 5'6"? Anyone have one with first had knowledge of how they do offroad? __________________ Templar X 250 Vespa GTS 300 Vespa ET4 150 Triumph Legend TT 900
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02-14-2024, 05:26 AM	#2
solidsnake2431 Join Date: Dec 2023 Posts: 31	I have the Templar X it's an amazing bike I wouldn't bother owning one that didn't have the extra gear for road riding and the counter balanced engine but... stock it is VERY tall. It is slightly taller then most motocross and other dirtbikes but can easily be lowered via the rear shock second hole that brings the seat from 38ish inches to about 35. I am a good 5"10 and even when lowered have a little issue because the inseam of most riding pants does not come up high enough (the crotch is too low) but riding with most jeans are ok.
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02-14-2024, 01:42 PM	#4
Weresquatch Join Date: Jan 2024 Posts: 106	I appreciate the replies. I just got my Templar X delivered yesterday. Once it's built I can get a better idea of what the wife needs. So far I'm impressed with the spec on this bike. It's surprisingly burly. The welds are pretty darn good (I'm still unpacking it though).
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02-14-2024, 04:59 PM	#5
Weresquatch Join Date: Jan 2024 Posts: 106	Wife is 5'6", almost no off-road experience but commutes on a Vespa 150cc w/about 12hp. I don't think a power increase will be an issue for her as much as being able to not feel too tall.
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02-15-2024, 03:17 PM	#9
Weresquatch Join Date: Jan 2024 Posts: 106	Good looking out. The Bashan Storm wasn't on my radar. I'll check it out.
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02-28-2024, 08:38 PM	#12
Mikd Join Date: May 2023 Location: NY Posts: 153	__________________ Templar X Vitacci Clash 200 Beta 300rr GasGas TXT 125
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02-29-2024, 10:17 AM	#13
Weresquatch Join Date: Jan 2024 Posts: 106	Yup....his videos are what put the Storm 150 on my radar. __________________ Templar X 250 Vespa GTS 300 Vespa ET4 150 Triumph Legend TT 900
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02-29-2024, 02:26 PM	#14
panzer77 Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Utah Posts: 32	Just checked PSM, didn't see the Strom available yet but the Sail is there. I want the stree legal stuff for the wife's bike.
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