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Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 11
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Venom x21 possible future owner
Hello everyone. I am very close to pulling the trigger on buying this bike:
https://www.venommotorsportscanada.c...nt=34152601421 I am slightly apprehensive though as I have not seen any videos, or reviews of it anywhere. The only results on youtube for it are the ones from venom motorsports themselves. I have also searched the forum for "x21" and not found any results (although searching on google turns up a few). From what I understand it is exactly the same frame/engine wise as the x20 they sell (Boom Vader), only it has different fairings and such to look like an SSR Razkull. Ideally I would love to get an SSR razkull but there are no dealers within hundreds of miles of me, and I cant find it for sale on the internet anywhere. Has anyone on here had any experiences with this specific bike? Thanks!! |
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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Welcome to here. No experience from what I can tell; the closest besides the SSR is the near-identical Ice Bear Lil' Monster. One member has one, and was intensively modifying his, but had some problems http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=19019
My only concern is the X21 is the same manufacturer as the Vader, and those have some out-of-the-box issues to work through--there are several members who have posted about their Vaders in the 'Street' section, and they have overcome the issues, but be aware. This dealer sells both the Boom Vader branded bikes and the Ice Bear models, and they are a reputable dealer, so I would call them and ask them; Venom is reputable (so far), but only sells one brand, so you probably won't get straight answers out of them. http://www.kronikracing.com/Scooters.html (scroll down and there are two pages of scooters and minis; Ice Bear is on the first page and Boom/Baodiao is the second page). The price difference between the Baodiao and the Ice Bear might make the Vaders a better deal, even with the extra work. But call Kronik Racing and see what they have to say.
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: East Central Hellinois
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Welcome aboard .....Culcune gave you the best advice you can get....whatever u end up with I hope it is a great bike and a load of fun.
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Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 11
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From Kronik racing the Boom brand lil' duc appears to be the bike that venom is selling. it is ~$300 less than the ice bear model.
With either I would expect to do some work out of the box to get it ride ready, just wonder what is worse in quality for the lil' duc to make it $300 cheaper. Thanks for the advice guys. Lots to think about. |
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Lloydminster Saskatchewan
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A quick glance at the X21 seems to be a Grom sized bike?
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Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 11
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Yep! it is a small grom sized bike.
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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It is interesting--Honda came out with the Grom, they became popular, then seemed like they were no longer popular, and then got popular, again. In the meantime, the Chinese caught on and started a cult following of these minis that are built in the same class as the Grom (minis).
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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I know this dealer http://www.txpowersports.com/ssr_str...kull-125cc.htm has rubbed a few members wrong, but others have had no issues ordering from them, so buyer beware. Press 'update price' and the bike is offered for $1878 including shipping. Not sure if you are getting more value for $500+ more than the Vader or Ice Bear, but SSR has posted the video of the comparison test of the Razkull winning a four way shootout with brand name minis because, ironically, it had better value over the big brand bikes that cost much more.
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: George West, Texas
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Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 11
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I think I may have decided to go in a different direction after a few days of research.
I think I may save up a bit longer and get the csc tt250 at the end of June when it is back in stock. Im also looking at this thing (it looks awesome) but can't get an answer on when it'll be in the us. But it's scheduled to be this year.... http://americanlifan.com/motorcycles/kp-mini/ |
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Join Date: May 2017
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Csc tt250 is $2195 and ~ $2500 out the door and shipped to my house not in stock til end of June though. The American Lifan 2017 kp mini is super duper exciting. Similar in size to the grom, but 25cc more plus 1 more gear than the grom. And that's only $1999 but no idea when/if it is even coming to the us. But it was planned to. Plus I'd have to find where to get one then too, same problem im having Curren with the razkull |
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