01-01-2013, 03:24 PM | #1 |
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do we have any knowledge of the 450cc bikes
http://www.pitmotorsltd.com/pitl1_030.htm listed on pit motors for cleveland cycle werks . guessing they are asiawing products
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01-01-2013, 08:42 PM | #2 |
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Looks promising, but they have showed 3 Hooliguns so far, too. I'll believe it when I see it.
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01-01-2013, 11:01 PM | #4 |
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I haven't heard any news regarding that bike. As with you, I won't hold my breath waiting for it to arrive. I am hopeful the larger bikes will finally make their way to the United States. However, we currently aren't seeing many bikes of any size being imported from China. :roll:
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01-01-2013, 11:18 PM | #5 |
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I'm guessing if they ever do make it to market that they're going to be very expensive! Plus, water cooling on the chinese machines still gives me the willy's
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01-02-2013, 12:01 AM | #6 |
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How can a Chinese, 450cc bike with a carburetor compete with the Honda, CRF250L with fuel injection?
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01-02-2013, 12:23 AM | #7 |
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CCW HOOLIGUN 450 R
ENGINE Engine Type 449cc liquid cooled, single cylinder, SOHC, four stroke. Bore + Stroke 96mm x 62.1mm Compression Ratio 11:1 Fuel System carbureted with EEC, EFI tuned port with EPA/CARB Maximum Output 43.5 HP / 7000 RPM Maximum Torque 42.5 NM / 6500 RPM Ignition System DCDI Starting System electric and kick Gearshift Specification 5 speed, standard international shift pattern (1,N,2,3,4,5) Final Drive KMC 520 chain, front 15t / rear 46t CHASSIS / SUSPENSION / BRAKES Chassis all aluminum twin spar upper with all aluminum sub frame and linked rear swing arm Front Suspension 47mm inverted style fork with rebound and compression-dampening adjustability, 250mm of travel Rear Suspension pro-link single shock with spring preload adjustment and rebound-dampening adjustability 305mm of travel Front Brakes single 240mm disc with dual piston caliper Rear Brakes single 240mm disc with single piston caliper Front Wheel 17" Rear Wheel 17" DIMENSIONS L x W x H 2320 x 830 x 1300 mm Wheelbase 1500 mm Ground Clearance 330 mm Seat Height 960 mm Fuel Capacity 8 liter Weight 120 KG / 264.6 LBS DETAILED INFO: Tail Light + Turn Signals LED lighting Speedometer digital speedometer available in MPH and KPH Colors polypropylene color impregnated black with CCW graphics packages |
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01-02-2013, 01:15 AM | #8 |
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looks like asiawing has a few years behind there 450cc heres a 2009 youtube race with a 450mx
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01-02-2013, 11:52 AM | #9 |
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For insurance reasons, it's too bad that it's not 399cc.
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01-04-2013, 05:52 PM | #10 |
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After a few chats with some in the usa and china . Looks like the msrp will be in the 6000 dollar range . I am also told the 450 is an exact copy of a honda 450 . witch year honda 450 i don't know 2012 honda exhaust exits on the left ,so not that new for sure . On a side note i also was told Zongshen was working on there own 400cc engine , could be very late in 2013 to hear anything about it .
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01-04-2013, 11:58 PM | #11 |
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I am definitely interested to learn more of the Zongshen, 400cc engine. However, at the price you listed, I think a 400cc chinabike will have a hard time competing with the Honda CRF250L priced at $4,499.
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01-05-2013, 01:12 AM | #12 |
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43.5hp is impressive.
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01-05-2013, 01:35 AM | #13 |
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I agree at that price it is close to the msrp of a suzuki drz400 . in weight and power close to crf450 . a steller reveiw and a price in the 5200 5300 range could help it . spec show the usa epa /carb model will have fuel injection
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01-05-2013, 10:01 AM | #14 |
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msrp of 6000 which means an actual price closer to 5000. Still alot for an unknown bike.
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01-05-2013, 10:14 AM | #15 |
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I have been trying to find anything i could about these bikes . i don't read or speak this . but it appears you can have your asiawing in all wheel drive .2012 Christini AWD 450
http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/945...stini-450-awd/ Christini 450 All-Wheel Drive Motorcycle(La gamma è divisa in due e quattro tempi. AWD 250 ed AWD 300 (entrambe EnduroCross - avete presente i video girati nel deserto del Mojave? Ecco...) sono spinte dal propulsore Gas Gas a due tempi, mentre AWD 450 (EnduroCross), AWD 450DS (Enduro omologata per la circolazione stradale) ed AWD 450SM (Supermotard) montano un quattro tempi da 450cc prodotto dalla cinese Asiawing Motors su base Honda CRF.) |
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